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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/15/things-the-bible-doesn-t-say-but-you-thought-it-did.html03.15.15
Candida Moss
Apples, unicorns and Jesus childhood are all missing from the Bible. Why?
The Bible is the most hotly debated and influential book of all time. Christians vehemently disagree with one another about what the Bible says and doesnt say; which Biblical laws are eternally proscriptive and which are defeasible; and what the Bible actually means and who gets to decide. But even apart from these debates theres a lot of blank space in the Bibleplaces where a lack of information has led readers and interpreters to supply extraneous information. Add to that all the things people think are in the Bible but arent and you have a whole different book.
To start off, theres the insertion of mammals and botanicals in places where they shouldnt be. Most people grow up learning that Eve took an apple from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, gave it to Adam, leading to the ejection of humanity from the Garden of Eden. But theres no apple in the Gardentheres only a piece of fruit. The interpretation that its an apple sneaks in in the King James Version of the Bible.
And there isnt any mention of unicorns processing twosies by twosies, hoovesa-clattering onto Noahs Ark. Once again we have fearless band of translators to thank. The English unicorn is a translation of a Latin rendering of a Greek word that sounds unicornish (monokerosone-horned). The Greek is itself a translation of the Hebrew word for wild ox (reem). From wild ox to unicorn in three easy stepsthats one heck of a makeover.
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Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him,Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead! So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the LORD. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
2 Kings.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The Christian Bible was first assembled at the Council of Nicaea in 325. The Bible has had many books over 2000 plus years. Some, called the Gnostic books, were eliminated at the Council to produce the accepted version of the Bible. I would guess that many Christians do not know this.
Many US Christians are also not aware that their brand of fundamentalist, millennial Christianity is of 19th Century origin.
But many people obviously feel that whatever they believe is supported by the Bible because they identify as Christian.
So the tricky part comes up. How are the uneducated to be changed/educated/enlightened?
When you wrote:
And there isnt any mention of unicorns processing twosies by twosies, hoovesa-clattering onto Noahs Ark. Once again we have fearless band of translators to thank. The English unicorn is a translation of a Latin rendering of a Greek word that sounds unicornish (monokerosone-horned). The Greek is itself a translation of the Hebrew word for wild ox (reem). From wild ox to unicorn in three easy stepsthats one heck of a makeover.
I am glad you did not mention dinosaurs. My Bible has Barney and Mrs. Barney walking onto the Ark. I would hate to think it was not true.
Nice, non-judgmental post. I have come to expect that from you and have not been disappointed.
Signed,
a rational believer
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Latin has a word "malum" meaning "evil"
It has another word "malum" meaning "apple"
This generally causes no confusion
The Genesis 2:17 text (taken here from Latin Vulgate)
de ligno autem scientiae boni et mali ne comedas in quocumque enim die comederis ex eo morte morieris
isn't about "the tree of the knowlege of good and of apple"
goldent
(1,582 posts)But wouldn't Latin versions of Genesis be relatively new?
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)version dating from around 300 BCE, and the Latin Vulgate version from sometime after 400 CE.
The Septuagint probably wasn't the first Greek translation nor the Latin Vulgate the first Latin translation. There were Jewish communities established in Greece and Rome before 100 BCE.
That the gospels were written in Greek might suggest that Christianity first spread through the Greek-speaking diaspora; and the earliest Latin translations of the Hebrew texts seem to have be retranslations from the Septuagint. These seem to have become more common after 100 CE as Christianity spread through the Roman empire