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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 02:19 PM Dec 2017

'Alabama' and SEC domination.

Monday, Alabama returns for the rubber match against Clemson.

Alabama's 2017 program was designed and dedicated to winning THIS ONE GAME!

Instead of running out of gas in the last quarter of the last game, two things are now in Alabama's favor to beat Clemson.

No. 1 - They are deeper in the roster on defense and have good players alternating in and out all game long!

No. 2 - This isn't the last game! This is the first game after a long, relaxing, needed break! January 1, their tank is full!

2 out of the final 4 are SEC teams. Another SEC team is playing undefeated UCF the same day!

In the big bowl games so far, SEC-style defense in the QB's face has won the day!

We can expect an all SEC-championship game this year!

It's almost inevitable!



Oh, yes. One more thing.

"Roll Tide!!!"

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'Alabama' and SEC domination. (Original Post) yallerdawg Dec 2017 OP
I'm rooting for the Tide to win title also but not as optimistic as you. Mayberry Machiavelli Dec 2017 #1
Just a reminder. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #2
I actually agree with most of this except Hurts "being" the run game. Mayberry Machiavelli Dec 2017 #8
I can see why Saban was reluctant to pull Hurts... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #9
It worked...but I would love to see him play Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #19
Clemson will win by 14+ points ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #3
Except for that Syracuse loss. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #4
Sure, Clemson did ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #5
Vegas has it 'pick'em' or the Crimson Tide by 3. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #6
Not a betting person ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #7
Auburn sucked really bad at the first of the season. nt Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #10
Also at the end of the season... yallerdawg Jan 2018 #11
They dropped a big ole pile of chit today too.... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #13
Every game today features an SEC team! yallerdawg Jan 2018 #12
SEC is sucking bigly this year in the bowls... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #14
Well, the Dawgs did our part. GaYellowDawg Jan 2018 #15
You are correct....hopefully bama will hold up there end tonite. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #16
What is the SEC bowl record so far??? a kennedy Jan 2018 #17
You can reflect on how good they are... yallerdawg Jan 2018 #18
Good one yd Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2018 #20
The SEC's bowl record would be better... GaYellowDawg Jan 2018 #24
When an SEC team wins the National Championship... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #21
Well I'm glad my pessimism about Alabama turned out wrong. Defense looked great, healed up. Mayberry Machiavelli Jan 2018 #22
"All-SEC championship validates league but irritates many" yallerdawg Jan 2018 #23
The tenth time stuff is irrelevant. I'm just talking about the state of the SEC this year. Mayberry Machiavelli Jan 2018 #25
RTR! stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #26

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
1. I'm rooting for the Tide to win title also but not as optimistic as you.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 02:57 PM
Dec 2017

I realize they've had time to heal and rest up so their defense should hopefully be recovered from some of the late season injuries.

But I do feel that going into the playoff they actually (for a change) looked like the weakest of the 4 teams. They defended the run poorly against Mississippi State and Auburn and that has been the key to their whole play style and dominance during the Saban years.

Hurts is good but not great and the team can't rely on him to push them to a win in dicey situations in my opinion. Hurts relies on the team, especially defense and run game, to put Bama in a position where he doesn't have to make a lot of good throws for them to win.

Now having said that, if the hurt defensive players being rested and healed up lets them defend the run more like early season then Bama has a good a chance as anyone left.

Luckily Clemson doesn't have DeShaun Watson this year as he was clearly better (a lot better) than Hurts and was the reason they won last year. Haven't watched the new guy much, but Clemson's D is still fearsome too.

Roll Tide, hope they win.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. Just a reminder.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:13 PM
Dec 2017

Sophomore Jalen Hurts is 25-2. And he IS the running game.

And last year - against Clemson - he engineered the go ahead touchdown with 2 minutes remaining...

Saban himself said the defense ran out of gas and his goal was to fix THAT!

And then, of course, there was that 'pick play' in the end zone that won the game. That QB is in the pros now.

And Jalen Hurts has had a year to study that play. If you can't beat 'em...


I just want to pump up your hopefulness!!!

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
8. I actually agree with most of this except Hurts "being" the run game.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

The various NFL first rounders at RB are the run game but Hurts is certainly one of the biggest threats.

The D running out of gas is simply a function of the offense not being able to sustain drives. ANY defense would run out of gas in that situation, I think Bama had the best D in the nation last year but after watching them not be able to get off field against Clemson and Bama offense not sustain drives I kind of knew that Clemson would probably win.

I do agree that the pick play was basically a cheat that a lot of teams (cough New England Pats) get away with.

One thing I really liked about this season is the Hawaiian 2nd string QB, Tua, that guy is awesome.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. I can see why Saban was reluctant to pull Hurts...
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:20 PM
Dec 2017

for the freshman 'true passer' when they were playing Auburn - even as Hurts was having a poor passing game. Auburn at home against rivals is truly a 12th man!

The Clemson game was at Clemson, by the way.

In New Orleans - if Hurts is off to the detriment of the team - I can see the Hawaiian coming out!

I just suspect that New Orleans will be nothing like playing in Auburn - as Auburn just found out playing in Georgia!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. It worked...but I would love to see him play
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:26 AM
Jan 2018

The lefty.... personally don't think Hurts is the end all be all. Roll tide!

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
3. Clemson will win by 14+ points
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:35 PM
Dec 2017

Alabama simply isn't that good this year. The Georgia/Oklahoma game seems a closer call to me.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. Except for that Syracuse loss.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

Clemson lost to a 4-8 team.

Hmmm.

I'd say that simply isn't that good a year.

Same problem for Oklahoma.

You are supposed to win the one's you are supposed to win!

A rivalry game with Auburn at their home to salvage the head coach and season? THAT makes Alabama bad?

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
5. Sure, Clemson did
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:00 PM
Dec 2017

And I'm not a Clemson fan (nor do I dislike Clemson), but I think they'll win fairly easily. Say 28-10?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. Vegas has it 'pick'em' or the Crimson Tide by 3.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:08 PM
Dec 2017

That's where the money is.

I wouldn't give any points if I were you.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
7. Not a betting person
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:11 PM
Dec 2017

I never seem to predict the correct score, so take mine with a grain of salt, but if I was betting straight up on a winner, I'd go Clemson. I haven't seen enough from Alabama this year to change my mind. But the Syracuse loss was pretty awful. On the other hand, the win against Auburn at the beginning of the season with a freshman QB looks pretty impressive in hindsight.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. Also at the end of the season...
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

when they left home-field advantage behind and scored 1 touchdown in the entire SEC Championship game.

They won't be playing at home vs. undefeated UCF, either.

(it's just so hard to say anything good about Auburn )

Roll Tide!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,063 posts)
14. SEC is sucking bigly this year in the bowls...
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jan 2018

not sure why....I sure hope GA and BAMA can turn it around.

GaYellowDawg

(4,443 posts)
15. Well, the Dawgs did our part.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jan 2018

For that matter, so did the Faux Dawgs, Mississippi State. And South Carolina.

a kennedy

(29,467 posts)
17. What is the SEC bowl record so far???
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 11:23 PM
Jan 2018

The BIG 10 is 7 - 0 and if Hairball could have won in Michigan....it would have been a sweep. Why take him???

GaYellowDawg

(4,443 posts)
24. The SEC's bowl record would be better...
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jan 2018

... if we didn't have 2 teams with a prior commitment to the PLAYOFF.

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
22. Well I'm glad my pessimism about Alabama turned out wrong. Defense looked great, healed up.
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

Having said that I think it's misleading to talk about SEC domination this year despite Bama and GA being in the final.

Like other conferences, aside from that top team or two, it's not like the past where there were a handful of national title contenders in the SEC and the Gators and LSU would be threats to win the title also.

Basically the powerhouses in the SEC this year were Bama, GA and Auburn.

LSU, Gators and the Mississippi teams not so much.

Not that different from the Big 10 where you have Buckeyes and Penn State and Wisconsin and... the rest.

Or Big 12 where you have Sooners and Frogs, a drop off to OK State, and... the rest. (Big 12 has really suffered from the Longhorns implosion.)

The SEC has gone through this weird thing because of Saban's consistent greatness. Places like GA and LSU have run off some very good coaches with really good results because they were not Saban and couldn't get them into the title picture every year. Luckily for GA it's worked out well.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
23. "All-SEC championship validates league but irritates many"
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jan 2018


Alabama linebacker points out:
"That's the whole reason they got rid of the BCS was to eliminate the all-SEC championship," Mosley said, "but again the SEC prevails."

The league celebrates itself like no other, and that irritates fans of teams in other conferences. There's no denying the domination of the SEC, though. Conference teams have played for the college football national championship in 12 of the last 15 years. With this latest all-SEC championship, a conference member will celebrate a national championship for the 10th time during that run.

The SEC has shaped the modern era of college football like no other conference, and an All-SEC national championship in the College Football Playoff is just the next step in the sport's evolution. The last time two SEC teams met in the championship game -- the 2011 BCS national championship -- college football decided to form a playoff. What's next? For now, just more gnashing of the teeth from the Big Ten, which was left out of the College Football Playoff completely only to go 7-1 in the bowls.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/all-sec_championship_validates.html#incart_river_home

Mayberry Machiavelli

(21,096 posts)
25. The tenth time stuff is irrelevant. I'm just talking about the state of the SEC this year.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:00 AM
Jan 2018

It's clearly not what it was say 8-10 years ago in terms of the number of top teams in the conference. There are two dominant teams, two and a half if you count Auburn, and the rest are not really better than their counterparts in other conferences as the non playoff bowls demonstrated.

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