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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 11:32 AM Jan 2012

What's wrong with writing just because you enjoy it, not to get published?


I guess I'm writing this to psych myself up to get writing again. I used to years ago, when
I was young. Like many people, I suspect, over the years, I just sort of stopped.

But I really enjoyed it, thinking back now. Looking at some of my stuff, it wasn't great
literature, but I really enjoyed it.

Some people would say there's no point in writing if you're not aiming for publication. I disagree. Not that there is anything wrong with getting published. If you've published
poetry, short stories, novels, articles, technical reports, etc., good for you!

But why do some people even say that? ("there's no point in writing if you're not aiming for publication.&quot That's like saying no point in drawing or painting unless you're going to show your works in a gallery. No point in sewing or knitting unless you're going to enter your work
in the state fair competition.


Writing is kind of like dreaming sometimes; when you write it down, you get some insights from it.

As I said above, I guess I'm writing this to psych myself up to get writing again.

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What's wrong with writing just because you enjoy it, not to get published? (Original Post) raccoon Jan 2012 OP
That's the best part of writing. Publishing is secondary. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author damaya Jun 2012 #18
sounds great ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author damaya Jun 2012 #22
Thank you damaya ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #23
My garden blog fulfills that need.....I can do it when I feel like it! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2012 #2
Yes! Ineeda Jan 2012 #3
+1. dem644555il Mar 2012 #11
Nothing! rbnyc Jan 2012 #4
Nuttin', honey. I sing around the house and never have a singing gig, too. nt valerief Jan 2012 #5
Because you can't make money from it unless you publish it theAntiRand Jan 2012 #6
Absolutely nothing adagio4639 Jan 2012 #7
Nothing, go for it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #8
Nada. McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 #9
agree Indiana Feb 2012 #10
For thirty years I have kept journals---just for myself. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #12
That's what I do too. bemildred Apr 2012 #13
Write for your own joy. Don't worry about publication mainer Apr 2012 #14
Absolutely nothing. SheilaT May 2012 #15
Writing for personal enjoyment is a worthwhile endeavor, especially with a fountain pen. billyclem May 2012 #16
You must be old, like I am. lol. I write with a fountain pen when I write raccoon Jun 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author damaya Jun 2012 #17
They say that ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #20
The best thing I ever wrote, I wrote while I didn't give a damn what the result was. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #24
Absolutely nothing. Think about all the time people spend watching TV. pnwmom Aug 2012 #25
Excellent point! nt raccoon Aug 2012 #26
The best part of writing is the writing. If someone else wants to read it, that's ok. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #27
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
1. That's the best part of writing. Publishing is secondary.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

I like the eBook self-publishing because you can share your work with other people without a lot of expense (or revenue for that matter). Maybe it will get picked up on, maybe not. But it certainly can't languish there anymore than it already does on your personal hard drive. Even if it makes only one person happy, you did that. You don't even have to know. There's just the possibility and that makes it worth putting your work on display.

I keep a large (140 sheet) steno pad by the bed and jot down whatever I'm thinking at 3 in the morning. I try to use a different sheet for different stories, but sometimes I just draw a line. I'll figure it out in the morning.



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Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
3. Yes!
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jan 2012

The tremendous effort (usually futile) of attempting to find an agent or publisher, IMO, is better spent on actual writing. I must say, though, that there's something thrilling about holding an actual book, with your name as author, in your hand. So I go the self-publishing route (not ebook) and order a few copies to give away or sell at cost, and to proudly put one on my bookshelf.

 

theAntiRand

(40 posts)
6. Because you can't make money from it unless you publish it
Sat Jan 7, 2012, 06:12 PM
Jan 2012

And making money is far more important than expressing yourself. At least that's what I believed back in my teenage Objectivist days. Thankfully I'm better now.

adagio4639

(5 posts)
7. Absolutely nothing
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jan 2012

"What's wrong with writing just because you enjoy it, not to get published?"

Absolutely nothing. That's usually what leads to your being published anyway. The more you write the more your thoughts become organized. You're writing to communicate your thoughts. The more you do that, the more clearly those thoughts are presented. I enjoy politics. I've been posting on political forums for the past 12 years. Each time I posted something it was in response to something by some wingnut that was illogical and made no sense. Over time I found that my arguments became more sound and logically valid. Eventually I sent some of my writing samples to a few online publishers, and got picked up. Got paid too. That led to a publishing deal and a book that came out two years ago. I'm new on this forum, but it looks really promising for posting my ideas.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Nothing, go for it
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 11:57 PM
Jan 2012

In fact MOST writers do it primarily to write. The money (if you get paid) is secondary.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
9. Nada.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 06:24 PM
Feb 2012

Very few writers can support themselves in style with their writing unless they are willing to turn out porn or copies of whatever is hot at the moment. That is not "writing". That is work.

If you aim for publication, be sure to check out the market, because publishers want a sure thing---and that means something very much like something else that has made a lot of money. A talented writer can write anything, so if you need the money, do not hesitate to write what you think the paying audience wants. But do not expect to be rewarded by publishers for your creativity and do not expect to get a lot of satisfaction from writing the formula fiction they do want. Also remember that when a publisher rejects your work, he is not rejecting your soul. He thinks the book won't make any money.

I am lucky to have a "day job" that I love---I am a family physician at a public clinic that provides health care for the needy. I make less than a lot of doctors in private practice, but I make much more than I would if I tried to support myself writing. If you really want to make money doing something creative, consider art. I do a little art as a hobby, and I make much more money from that than I do from writing---even though writing is my avocation. People are more than willing to pay cold, hard cash for the privilege of owning something that is one of a kind.

 

Indiana

(34 posts)
10. agree
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:49 PM
Feb 2012

I agree. Sometimes your best audience is you. I used to write a lot of poetry when I was a kid. I would hang them up in my room. I now write some poems and give them to my wife as presents. Before you say I am a wimp then know I actually write the poems because I am cheap!

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
12. For thirty years I have kept journals---just for myself.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:33 AM
Apr 2012

There is absolutely nothing wrong with writing just for yourself.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
13. That's what I do too.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:36 AM
Apr 2012

It's a great way to think, for one thing, and to organize ideas, and to learn new material.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
14. Write for your own joy. Don't worry about publication
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 06:46 PM
Apr 2012

I say this as someone who writes for a living -- and makes a good living at it. Since it's now a business for me, I find that it has become a job like any other. I miss the days when I wrote for fun.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
15. Absolutely nothing.
Thu May 31, 2012, 01:37 AM
May 2012

While I myself certainly hope to get published, I have to start by writing for myself. It's the only way there's any hope of getting good enough to be published.

And sometimes it's simply an end in itself. I've also kept a journal for many years. That's not intended for publication.

billyclem

(145 posts)
16. Writing for personal enjoyment is a worthwhile endeavor, especially with a fountain pen.
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:15 PM
May 2012

Others have addressed why keep writing for yourself, I would like to address the physical act of writing. For me, nothing beats the enjoyment of using a quality fountain pen, whether to jot down a quick note or to work on something much, much longer.

I am not certain what happens; but, there is a different mindset when I write with a pen as compared to a keyboard. I seem more thoughtful and better able to concentrate. Plus, those nice cursive words, in the current chosen color look so much nicer than a screen ever can.

For you who are writing for yourself give the fountain pen a try, you might just be surprised.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
19. You must be old, like I am. lol. I write with a fountain pen when I write
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:59 AM
Jun 2012

in my journal or write down my dreams.

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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
25. Absolutely nothing. Think about all the time people spend watching TV.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:34 AM
Aug 2012

No one ever seems to worry about that. And yet some writers worry that they're wasting time if they're not trying to publish.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
27. The best part of writing is the writing. If someone else wants to read it, that's ok.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 06:27 AM
Mar 2013

But I write what I want to read.

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