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Related: About this forumWatching Dateline OJ what the jury didnt hear
Jesus, watching this whitewash of the case
No mention of how evidence was planted, obviously, by cops misusing socks and so on
my god
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Really. After the way he beat her and beat her, it made perfect sense that he was the killer.
randys1
(16,286 posts)the evidence and tampering thereof demanded an acquittal.
More interesting than guilt or not to us, as we are not family, is the reaction both white and Black America had
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I wont say more, but it drove my stepdad a bit insane and he did not live long after it.
FreedRadical
(518 posts)As the case began to unfold I had my doubts, but I also had complete contempt for that cop Fuhrman. I have no doubt he planted evidence.
I did not dance with glee when he was acquitted, but I did believe OJ got away with murdering two people. I still do. It was the fucking cops and DA's fault he got away with it.
That said, I trace that moment in my personal history that my relationship with white America changed. Or more accurately, white America's relationship with me changed. Over night I became a potential OJ, to be feared and despised. It was a strange time.
However, I learned a lot from the sister, Denise Brown. I was a young man then, and domestic violence was not on my radar. I had no idea. Her campaign to bring awareness to the issue was eye opening for me. Before that I thought I was a good guy because I wasn't beating on women. I didn't know jealousy was a form. I didn't know being controlling was a form. I didn't know being critical of what she was wearing was a form. I didn't know I could be an abuser even though I wasn't hitting.
After my son died it used to piss me off when someone would say to me, "something good will come of this". I was like "how the fuck could that be"? I now I do crisis intervention work. I help.
I hope something good has come to these two families.
randys1
(16,286 posts)would never think of hitting a woman, but I would dismiss them in a conversation when I thought I knew better, I dont do that anymore.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)I lived about a mile from the Brentwood branch of the First California Bank. If I went there instead of the Centinela branch, I would find free valet parking, and a carpeted and quiet bank with no lines. The Centinela branch, a mile the other direction, had linoleum floors, security guards and security cameras, and long lines. Class war in LA.
I saw OJ at Brentwood several times; he enjoyed being a public celebrity. Nicole Brown Simpson's security deposit box was at this bank. The restaurant where the waiter worked was only a block away.
The first time I saw OJ was when I got stuck behind an amazing red sports car in gridlock traffic in Westwood. I read the car name on the back: Ferrari Testarossa. I said to myself "Who the hell can afford that?" I could see that the driver's windows were down, and I maneuvered myself alongside after some stop-and-go traffic. The driver was OJ, of course. Most famous people in LA hide behind tinted windows. He liked being seen and recognized.
For the record, I think OJ was guilty, too.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I didn't believe the house guest or Mark Fuhrman. It took me long time to believe he wasn't being railroaded.
It was a bias on my part from so many trials in the south that I couldn't let go of and are just part of me, just as my reaction to Palin and others based on her rallies in the south. It left me totally freaked out before the election.
I didn't start to change my mind until the civil trial came out and there were so many interviews on the abuse. The history between them was long and ugly.
Since he was found not guilty, then jailed on the other unrelated case later, it appeared that a weird justice was served. The charges he had that got him such a long time in prison didn't seem to be in proportion to that particular crime, but it certainly didn't make him look good and it seemed the national furor over his acquittal had something to do with that.
It seemed no one agreed with me during the trial, and people were very adamant about his guilt, so I didn't talk about my opinion. It wasn't like my feelings were going to change what went down in the courtroom, one way or the other.
I cut off some people I thought I knew very well during the Zimmermann fiasco and never looked back. I did not accept their ugly condemnation of Trayvon.
JHMO.
randys1
(16,286 posts)in strategic places, taking evidence home with you in your car which Van Atter or whatever his name was did...
My interest in the case is two fold, the rampant police perjury that occurs all the time and the reaction of white and Black America
JustAnotherGen
(32,001 posts)For many of the same reasons. Then the Civil Trial came out - same as you.
Then I found out his oldest son's history and I don't know.
How far would a father go to protect his child? How far would a child go - a disturbed young man with a history of knife play - to gain his father's approval?
SickupandFed
(3 posts)that it needs to rehash the railroad job that became, "The Life of O.J." Trust me, some asschunk in tv-land thought this would get ratings because ameriKa still hates O.J. for killing that pretty Blond White coke head woman. No wonder NBC sucks the most.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Great to see you, now dont run off and play in that garden all day, ok!!
ex RR as she retired, damn her