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I am only going to say this once, mac & cheese (Original Post) irisblue Nov 2023 OP
You make a strong case EYESORE 9001 Nov 2023 #1
Little ones get a pass by me irisblue Nov 2023 #2
It's one of those dishes where I prefer no leftovers EYESORE 9001 Nov 2023 #5
I make blue box m&c with cut up hot dogs for the kids irisblue Nov 2023 #11
Mac and Cheese for one!! Nittersing Nov 2023 #34
Not even 4-cheese mac? Breadcrumb topping? niyad Nov 2023 #3
Big Momma/BigSis m&c only only TDay. But tell us more a/b 4 cheese heart attack on the plate. Go on.. irisblue Nov 2023 #6
Very much like your standard baked mac and cheese, but there niyad Nov 2023 #55
For the most part, I would agree; however... Probatim Nov 2023 #4
I have a version with orange sweetpotato Auggie Nov 2023 #33
Trader Joe's has that buttetnut squash mac/cheese in their niyad Nov 2023 #51
I'm gonna say something that may be considered heresy in some circles EYESORE 9001 Nov 2023 #7
I remember mac & cheese tasting fabulous, irresistible mahina Nov 2023 #8
My kids loved it when they were growing up. murielm99 Nov 2023 #15
Well that's what I'm calling it from now on too, if we're lucky it's hot mahina Nov 2023 #62
I make it at home every now and then leftieNanner Nov 2023 #53
You are surely correct, elleng Nov 2023 #9
Oh no, Ellen. qwlauren35 Nov 2023 #45
Yup, I did it! elleng Nov 2023 #46
That's all that matters. qwlauren35 Dec 2023 #65
I can never get it cheesy enough. Maybe my taste buds aren't what they used to be. Diamond_Dog Nov 2023 #10
I, too, have tried all kinds of recipes, experimenting w/ changing the recipes for M and C, and still, no prize. SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #12
You'll definitely have to share your recipe if you find success! Diamond_Dog Nov 2023 #16
One 'secret' for the cheese sauce: Nac Mac Feegle Nov 2023 #42
I grabbed a pound of Carolina Reaper Blend cheese at Walmart Shermann Nov 2023 #54
I will try that. Thanks! Diamond_Dog Nov 2023 #60
Thank you for the tips!!! I can't wait to try it again, may do so for the holidays coming up! SWBTATTReg Nov 2023 #64
Whatever donheld Nov 2023 #13
And yet here you are junior... irisblue Nov 2023 #14
You like Mac n Cheese? JohnnyRingo Nov 2023 #17
I'd like to be buried up to my knees mac56 Nov 2023 #18
I agree with you mgardener Nov 2023 #19
A work night, mom dad gets home at 6 and then irisblue Nov 2023 #22
I used to make butter, flour roux, with cheddar cheese and cksmithy Nov 2023 #20
Exactly! Make a roux then add LOTS of cheese. Zilli Nov 2023 #49
If your Mac & cheese is bland, try adding some mustard powder and paprika to the roux. Ziggysmom Nov 2023 #21
+1 ... the ex would add a little white wine too Auggie Nov 2023 #31
I've never grated cheese but may try that next time Shermann Nov 2023 #56
LOL ☺️. Guess I'd cut the cheese into pieces so it melts faster and thoroughly. It's all good! Ziggysmom Nov 2023 #63
I'll try that next time Shermann Nov 2023 #23
I still trying to figure out relayerbob Nov 2023 #24
Start here.. irisblue Nov 2023 #28
Thank you for the insight relayerbob Nov 2023 #59
Leftover mac and cheese scrambled with eggs. Fine dining. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #25
Now that sounds delicious Duncanpup Nov 2023 #27
That and easy. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #30
Duncan approved. 🐶 Diamond_Dog Nov 2023 #39
Not from a box and made with a powder that's a shade of orange not known in nature? Ocelot II Nov 2023 #26
Just send me a invitation 😂 Duncanpup Nov 2023 #29
I wish the gubement was still handing out those blocks of white cheddar cheese they were giving out in the ... marble falls Nov 2023 #32
Handed that out in elementary school. We had cheese fights. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #37
It was epic. And we got so much of it. Maybe 10 or so blocks over a year. Some folks even got blocks of butter ... marble falls Nov 2023 #38
Mine came out of the oven last night BaronChocula Nov 2023 #35
I kinda like Pantera's Mac and Cheese.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #36
Washed down with a Black Tooth Grin! Shermann Nov 2023 #50
Their Mac and Cgeese is good too! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2023 #52
When my brother comes to visit, I make it (Betty Crocker) with a pound of (pre-fried) BACON in it and a ton of Leghorn21 Nov 2023 #40
I got the recipe from a place PlutosHeart Nov 2023 #41
I agree qwlauren35 Nov 2023 #43
The best stuff is made that way MurrayDelph Nov 2023 #44
try with catsup on the side isitreal Nov 2023 #47
Nobody mentioned bacon bits? Interesting.... getagrip_already Nov 2023 #48
the blue box could be improved on. qwlauren35 Dec 2023 #66
Ahh, haut coitour (sp?) i see.... getagrip_already Dec 2023 #67
I make my mother's... bamagal62 Nov 2023 #57
and no freaking adulterants like shrimp, oysters, chicken, bacon or jalapenos! Kali Nov 2023 #58
My AA fiance is considering BWdem4life Nov 2023 #61

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
1. You make a strong case
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 03:39 PM
Nov 2023

Alas, my grandchildren - all except the latest little nipper who doesn’t even have teeth yet - all like the stuff in a box.

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
5. It's one of those dishes where I prefer no leftovers
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 03:54 PM
Nov 2023

And it takes a bit of time and effort to make a proper mac&cheese from scratch. A full dish is more than my wife and I can eat for one meal, and I mentioned my aversion to leftovers. We should just make a decent dish and serve it in an ‘eat it or don’t’ presentation. I think the older ones will try it, and maybe even the younger ones.

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
11. I make blue box m&c with cut up hot dogs for the kids
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:24 PM
Nov 2023

Last edited Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Across the street kids for dinner, occasionally. Sometimes you do what needs be.

Nittersing

(6,362 posts)
34. Mac and Cheese for one!!
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:02 PM
Nov 2023

▢2 ounces uncooked elbow macaroni – about 1/2 cup
▢1 tablespoon salted butter
▢1 tablespoon all purpose flour
▢½ cup milk (use any percentage or almond milk)
▢½ cup shredded sharp cheddar cheese
▢⅛ teaspoon dry mustard
▢⅛ teaspoon kosher salt

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
6. Big Momma/BigSis m&c only only TDay. But tell us more a/b 4 cheese heart attack on the plate. Go on..
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 03:55 PM
Nov 2023

niyad

(113,336 posts)
55. Very much like your standard baked mac and cheese, but there
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 08:06 PM
Nov 2023

are many different recipes and cheese combinatiions. Sharp white cheddar, aged gouda, fontina and parmesan ( for the breadcrumb topping) is one of mine. Blocks of cheese, freshly grated (pre-grated is coated, which makes melting a bit of a problem. Add the cheeses to the bechamel SLOWLY.

One can, of course, add a chopped protein prior to baking, but I prefer them on the side, and for our vegetarian friends.

Probatim

(2,529 posts)
4. For the most part, I would agree; however...
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 03:53 PM
Nov 2023

There is a pretty mean Butternut Squash Mac & Cheese that contains Gruyere:

https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/creamy-butternut-squash-mac-and-cheese-with-kale/ (Screw the kale part though.)

And on the other end of the spectrum, I do like Mac & Cheese made with Velveeta, butter, and milk.

niyad

(113,336 posts)
51. Trader Joe's has that buttetnut squash mac/cheese in their
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:45 PM
Nov 2023

freezer section this holiday season.

EYESORE 9001

(25,941 posts)
7. I'm gonna say something that may be considered heresy in some circles
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:01 PM
Nov 2023

I see no harm in adding a small amount of ‘velveeta-type’ cheese to the melt. It contains lots of casein, an emulsifier that provides that ultra-smooth texture. You can use your favorite cheeses, add milk, flour, whatever, and the casein from the velveeta makes everything dreamily silky..

mahina

(17,665 posts)
8. I remember mac & cheese tasting fabulous, irresistible
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:03 PM
Nov 2023

But when I have succumbed and gotten it at say the Whole Foods trough, it tastes like nothing. Just kind of a texture, not really a flavor at all.

I thought my tastes must’ve changed. I remember thinking it was the most delicious thing in the world growing up. But I dont see dedicating the time and money to making it from scratch to find out.

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
15. My kids loved it when they were growing up.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:10 PM
Nov 2023

They called it "hot guck." That is what their baby sister called it, and they thought it was funny.

mahina

(17,665 posts)
62. Well that's what I'm calling it from now on too, if we're lucky it's hot
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 11:17 PM
Nov 2023

hilarious. This baby has potential.

leftieNanner

(15,120 posts)
53. I make it at home every now and then
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:49 PM
Nov 2023

Full on scratch with a ton of cheese, herbs, a little Sriracha. Fattening but 😋

elleng

(130,967 posts)
9. You are surely correct,
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:15 PM
Nov 2023

Last edited Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:57 PM - Edit history (1)

but I have a 'funny' story:

In my first year living in Chicago, which I did for 10 years, I made a few good friends who were African American, ( I am not,) and as they kindly invited me to join them for one Thanksgiving, they made the serious mistake of asking me to bring ''the Mac and Cheese.' It wasn't part of my family's tradition, so I did my 'best' bringing the stuff out of the box. They looked at me with 'wondering' eyes!!!

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
65. That's all that matters.
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 09:39 AM
Dec 2023

Next time, just bring Stouffers. It's not great, but it's better than the blue box.

Diamond_Dog

(32,005 posts)
10. I can never get it cheesy enough. Maybe my taste buds aren't what they used to be.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:23 PM
Nov 2023

I used to make the kind from the blue box as a teen. My mother didn’t like to cook and never made it at all So the blue box kind was all I ever knew for a long time. I have made it from scratch for my family many times but can never get it cheesy enough. It just keeps tasting bland. ☹️. And I do use sharp cheddar that I grate myself.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
12. I, too, have tried all kinds of recipes, experimenting w/ changing the recipes for M and C, and still, no prize.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:42 PM
Nov 2023

I'm still experimenting w/ different recipes, an easy one at that, so it doesn't have to have 10 ingredients, so it's an ongoing process. Who knows, maybe one day?!

Nac Mac Feegle

(971 posts)
42. One 'secret' for the cheese sauce:
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:33 PM
Nov 2023

Add a few drops of Tabasco sauce. This provides salt to intensify the flavor and adds a tiny spike of flavor that wakes up the sauce. I can always tell when someone omits the Tabasco from a Bechamel sauce (the Mother Sauce for the cheese sauce), it just seems flat. You can't taste it, but you can taste if it's not there. Just a few drops, more if the batch is larger.

My mac and cheese from scratch was famous among my sons' friends. Fresh out of the oven with a crust of panko bread crumbs.

Also; tossing in a slice of American cheese helps to keep the sauce from breaking, one of those Kraft singles type. It's almost all emulsifiers, so the sauce is almost guaranteed to be never break.


Shermann

(7,423 posts)
54. I grabbed a pound of Carolina Reaper Blend cheese at Walmart
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:50 PM
Nov 2023

It is mozzarella and monterey jack cheese with jalapeno, habanero, and Carolina Reaper peppers. For the hell of it I made baked mac and cheese with it, and it wasn't bad. It has some legitimate heat though; I'd probably cut it with Swiss or cheddar next time.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
17. You like Mac n Cheese?
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:27 PM
Nov 2023

We have a place here in NE Ohio that only does Mac n Cheese. Love this place!
They aren't a chain, just a couple people with a good idea:

Check the menu:
https://machausohio.com/

On edit: I see they added some sandwiches. I gotta get over there.

cksmithy

(231 posts)
20. I used to make butter, flour roux, with cheddar cheese and
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:40 PM
Nov 2023

pour it over cooked macaroni, with diagonally sliced hot dogs, and bake until bubbly and crispy. I hadn't made it for years, my oldest daughter used to make it for her family and then she made it for one of her friends who had a death in the family. They could not believe how good it was and asked her for the recipe. I got it from Betty Crocker's cookbook for two in the 1970's. I'm gluten free now, haven't been able to replicate the taste with gluten free pasta. I am not African American but mac and cheese from scratch was a part of my life growing up in California in the 1950's.

Zilli

(189 posts)
49. Exactly! Make a roux then add LOTS of cheese.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:57 PM
Nov 2023

I have used many different cheeses but sharp cheddar definitely is flavorful and comfortably familiar. However I've made it with Gruyere, it was good and once with blue cheese this was good too, but both are a side dish, not the main dish that it should be.
Mac and Cheese is a blessing.

Ziggysmom

(3,408 posts)
21. If your Mac & cheese is bland, try adding some mustard powder and paprika to the roux.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:41 PM
Nov 2023

For cheese, try using a blend of several flavors like sharp cheddar, gruyere and gouda. Grating from a block of cheese is much tastier than the pre-shredded stuff in a bag, too. Sometimes browning the butter a bit before adding the flour creates more flavor.

Shermann

(7,423 posts)
56. I've never grated cheese but may try that next time
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 08:15 PM
Nov 2023

Can't you just melt the blocks directly in the saucepan? I'm really not looking forward to that grating process. There will be blood.

Shermann

(7,423 posts)
23. I'll try that next time
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:44 PM
Nov 2023

I've done half white cheddar, half gruyere. Very good. Monterrey jack mixes in well too.

Mac & cheese is pretty forgiving, I've never made it and regretted my cheese decisions (nor felt the need to assert the superiority of one).

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
24. I still trying to figure out
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:47 PM
Nov 2023

how and when Mac and cheese became a Thanksgiving food. I like it, but .....

irisblue

(32,980 posts)
28. Start here..
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:58 PM
Nov 2023

Macaroni and cheese began to have new meanings and multiple identities in the Black community. Mac and cheese became “a celebratory dish, a convenient comfort food, and a meal stretcher for impoverished families.” We recognize this dish today as soul food!Aug 8, 2023
https://thesoulfoodpot.com › african...
African American History Of Macaroni And Cheese - The Soul Food Pot

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
26. Not from a box and made with a powder that's a shade of orange not known in nature?
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:55 PM
Nov 2023

When I was a kid I loved that stuff, but I now agree 100% that it should be made with sharp cheddar and baked in the oven.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
32. I wish the gubement was still handing out those blocks of white cheddar cheese they were giving out in the ...
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:00 PM
Nov 2023

... the seventies. It made the absolute best without any doubt Mac and cheese of all times.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
38. It was epic. And we got so much of it. Maybe 10 or so blocks over a year. Some folks even got blocks of butter ...
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:18 PM
Nov 2023

... I heard was delicious. Missed out on the butter somehow.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
40. When my brother comes to visit, I make it (Betty Crocker) with a pound of (pre-fried) BACON in it and a ton of
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:26 PM
Nov 2023

MOZZARELLA along with the sharp cheddar! (His cholesterol is 191, so I'm like, whatever you say, bro!!)


Tastes mighty NOMS, actually!

PlutosHeart

(1,280 posts)
41. I got the recipe from a place
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:33 PM
Nov 2023

in Minneapolis that is known for its Mac N' Cheese called Elsie's. It is called Buffalo Mac. Spicy and with chicken added. It is basically with 1-2 cooked and cubed chicken breast that is doused with a hot buffalo sauce, then rolled into a regular Mac recipe but with an added pkg of cream cheese and some sliced pepper and those long strip onions. So good. Now I need to make it again! If anyone needs an exact recipe lmk.I can drop it here.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
43. I agree
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:34 PM
Nov 2023

Kraft makes something that doesn't even fit in the same category. It should have a different name.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
44. The best stuff is made that way
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:38 PM
Nov 2023

That said, since there are only two of us (and my wife has developed a dairy sensitivity), a full casserole alone is bad for my type 2 diabetes. So a blue box (with slight improvements added) is my best option.

The same way Trader Joe's gnocchi is not as good as my grandmother's shiskelach recipe, but it's at least eight hours faster

isitreal

(25 posts)
47. try with catsup on the side
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:43 PM
Nov 2023

I like mine with catsup on the side. Grilled cheese sandwiches are good with it as well.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
48. Nobody mentioned bacon bits? Interesting....
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:55 PM
Nov 2023

Though I do agree with hot sauce.

When I was in college in the 70's, a box of kraft m&c was $0.25. On sale it was $0.10/box, but I think there was a limit.

Anyway, we pretty much lived on it.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
66. the blue box could be improved on.
Fri Dec 1, 2023, 09:44 AM
Dec 2023

In college, we took the blue box, added sour cream and canned mushrooms, and something green (I don't remember - maybe chives) and something else - maybe tuna. It was pretty good for college food.

bamagal62

(3,261 posts)
57. I make my mother's...
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 08:44 PM
Nov 2023

She always layered the macaroni and grated extra sharp cheddar cheese. Lots of cheese!
Then she would make a kind of quiche like mixture of milk, eggs, salt/pepper, dry mustard, a bit of Worcestershire sauce and maybe even some cayenne.
Then slowly pour it over and around the layered macaroni making sure not to displace the cheese and that the macaroni is covered enough not to Dry out. Top with more cheese.
Cook at about 350 for about an hour or until
Set.
It’s awesome!

Kali

(55,013 posts)
58. and no freaking adulterants like shrimp, oysters, chicken, bacon or jalapenos!
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 08:45 PM
Nov 2023

actually I can eat many versions from yours to the box, velveeta, Stoufers, my Mom's casserole version with egg, and Trader Joe's frozen regular is pretty freaking good too! I just don't want vegetables or meats mixed in. can leave off crunchy toppings as well (other than the crunchy baked exposed tidbits of pasta and cheese against the dish)

BWdem4life

(1,673 posts)
61. My AA fiance is considering
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 10:39 PM
Nov 2023

not baking it next time. She likes it creamy and says the oven dries it out too much.

(I like it just the way she makes it now, but I'm sure I'll be ok with whatever she does.)

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