I am taking a hiatus from D U

[DemocratSinceBirth]

All the acrimony is creating a rage in me that I do not recognize and do not like. I tried to fight the good fight but I am tired.

A special shout out to 1StrongBlackMan. You are the brother I never had...

Bravenak, Number23, heaven05, Tar Heel Dem, NC Traveler, and anybody in this group I didn't mention I love you all...

[TDale313]

1. I am truly sorry to hear that.

Totally get it, and do what you need to, but hope we see you back soon. Your voice is needed.

[brer cat]

2. Get some rest for the soul and the heart.

The rancor on this site these days can undermine the best of intentions. You will be missed greatly, but probably most of us will be taking breaks to keep it together. May we all come together in a more peaceful time.

[DesertFlower]

3. that's the reason i don't

post much.

take care of yourself.

[sheshe2]

4. I am very sorry to hear that, not that I blame you.

Do what you need to do DSB. Let it be known, you will be missed.

[Spazito]

5. Taking a break from here is a good thing...

I've done it more than once and may do it again soon. Take care, breathe deep and stay well.

[MADem]

6. Oh stick around--just stay out of that GD-P cesspool.

Let them have it. They'll get tired of talking to themselves, eventually.

And then they just might be crying in their beer....

[Hekate]

18. + a bajillion. I do think we all need a break from time to time, just to recoup our sanity.

[steve2470]

28. +1 nt

[Number23]

39. But that's the thing --they DON'T get tired of talking to themselves. Not at ALL. And on top of that

suddenly things start shifting and changing, lines get blurred. Truth starts becoming what THEY can make it.

I saw a post from someone who is a known adversary of a lot of people in this forum. She has been responsible for alot of laughably stupid, absolutely MORONIC shit on DU for years. You've had more than a few run ins with her as well. Think "Corey Booker is awesome now!1" and you may know who I'm talking about. As I've said for years, I swear I hear the Looney Toons theme song every time I see that person's name.

After pretending for months that the 'Bernie Sanders supporters are turning alot of people away from him' meme was just "right wing or Third Way talking points" even after Van Jones, Tom Hartmann and her beloved Occupy made some really heartfelt comments saying the same thing, she has now broken her ankle pivoting to the new theme that all of the Sanders supporters who called BLM "thugs" "pro Hillary shills" and "Koch funded right wingers" were actually just trolls and not at all indicative of real Sanders supporters.

And of course every time she posts this claptrap, her usual 4-5 crew come rushing up to +1 this stupidity. Soon it will be that none of these people even existed and that black people just made them up to slime Sanders. You just watch. So no, they don't get tired of talking to themselves because that's how the lies become the truth to these people. This is how the BS meme that TPTB won't LET their candidates win instead of the apparently inconceivable thought that maybe no one actually wants their candidates has taken such root.

[MADem]

41. Best thing to do in that case is just copy and paste the whole conversation, with names,

and put it in the thread so they can't delete it later.

Don't comment, just record the remarks.

We know that their candidate has limited appeal--he just isn't resonating. He went to SC, to a town that is 30 percent black, and his audience was mostly 'not black.' The attempt to paint the area as a "conservative stronghold" is a canard--SC is a key primary state.

He's--despite what appear to be recent efforts in mitigation-- appealing to people who are going to, at the end of the day, vote for "Jeb!" That's just the truth, but no point in trying to tell them--they'll get mad if you do, and then they'll start in with the goading/baiting. It's just not worth the expenditure.


Sanders gets raucous, but mostly white welcome in South Carolina as he works for black support

GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) — Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders sought to broaden his appeal with black voters Friday in a speech denouncing "institutional racism" in the political and economic system.

The Vermont senator addressed an overwhelmingly white crowd in the Republican stronghold of Greenville, South Carolina, as he made his case that "racism still remains a much too real part of American life." He's expected to meet privately with black leaders while in the state.

"There is no one who will fight harder not only to end institutional racism, but to make fundamental changes in our broken criminal justice system," he said, drawing roars from the crowd of almost 3,000.

Sanders pledged to fight the for-profit prison industry and to restore portions of the Voting Rights Act struck down by the Supreme Court.

South Carolina hosts the South's first presidential primary and is the first state in the nominating process to have a large number of black voters, who could make up a majority of the Democratic primary electorate in the state.

Sanders and his aides acknowledge he must get more black support, in South Carolina and other states, to win the nomination contest against Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[Cha]

42. "Sanders gets raucous, but mostly white welcome in South Carolina as he works for black support"

"Sanders and his aides acknowledge he must get more black support, in South Carolina and other states, to win the nomination contest against Hillary Rodham Clinton."

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/08/21/in-south-carolina-sanders-tries-to-court-black-voters

And, yet too many of his supporters treat African Americans like this..

“It this a legitimate group? Have their official media accounts said anything concerning this? Could be paid subversion,” wrote another.

The doxxing began.

“Apparently one of the women, Marissa Johnson, was a Sarah Palin supporter some time back. You can probably draw your own conclusions…” wrote one.

Yeah, that was BFD on du.

snip//

It’s not everyone. On Reddit, it’s easy to find hundreds of comments discussing how best to understand, respond to, or support the activists. And it’s hard to tell the allegiances of online conspiracy theorists — and impossible to underestimate the penchant for mischief online. But many of the comments were similar to those heard in person at Sanders events over the last month.

snip//

"The Sanders campaign did not respond to two requests for comment on supporters and the conspiracy issue"

So they are well aware of how some of these supporters are acting in his name.

Tio Oso..

“It’s very insulting and completely tone deaf and really indicative of the level of vitriol and derision that very specific Bernie Sanders supporters are exhibiting and began to exhibit right away — which is 100% racist, it’s discriminatory, it’s very anti-black,” she said.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/online-and-in-person-bernie-sanders-white-supporters-advance#.wmA6mdxow

#BlackLivesMatter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=537594

Mahalo for the link, MADem

[MADem]

44. If he'd been drawing a representative measure of the population, there should have been

close to a thousand black souls at that gathering--and as you can see from the crowd photos, it's like playing Where's Waldo. Someone hand me a magnifying glass!

https://berniesanders.com/greenville-south-carolina/

I notice he's figured out how to put a barricade and event staff between himself and the crowd. No more surprises, I guess!

[Cha]

46. African Americans know what's happening online with some of his supporters.. I don't care

how good his economic message is. His supporters don't treat people that way and expect them to vote for their candidate.

It just doesn't work like that. I know what I would do if I were treated that way.

And, BS knows about the way they're acting towards Black souls.. he just didn't respond..

snip//

"The Sanders campaign did not respond to two requests for comment on supporters and the conspiracy issue"

[MADem]

47. Yeah, this thread is pretty disturbing....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=535654

If you dig down to the links, there's some real ugliness up in there.

[Cha]

48. they just can't help themselves. no clue how bad they're hurting their candidate.

[zappaman]

50. The doubling down in that thread is disturbing and incredibly moronic.

But par for the course here.

[leftofcool]

55. Come back to us soon.

Like Hillary said, you can't change hearts and minds of everyone. There are those of us who get it and those who don't. Ignore the ones who don't and those of us who get it will build each other up.

[murielm99]

58. OMG.

I missed that thread. Now I need eye bleach.

[blm]

51. Agree with this - GD-P isn't showing any substantive contribution to the issues

that truly matter to this nation.

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. I dumped it as soon as it was created, and I suspect they did get "tired of talking to themselves"

which is why they swarmed this room for awhile, and some even had to be shown the door. Having dumped GD-P & the BS Group, DU is a much nicer experience for me.

[MADem]

62. Ain't it just!!!!

I've been at DU quite a while, and in my entire time here, I've never been called so many PERSONAL insults as I've received this last couple of months--one of these days, I should compile them all! Just the other day, I was accused of being a burier of bodies on the battlefield AND a keyboard warrior! By the same person! And I think there just may have been a reference to my being a manager of a house of prostitution, as well...


All because I haven't 'received' and 'accepted' the word of Saint Bernard.



I'll tell ya; I have learned something about people who are interested in politics in my old age. Not all people who call themselves liberal are terribly tolerant of views that diverge from their own. I think it's pretty doggone funny-sad, to learn this. I always thought we were universally better. Now I'm finding out some of us just support their team, and don't mind using opposition low-blow tactics to "win" (and by "win" I mean Charlie Sheen "winning"--not actual winning...!). I don't see where they get the idea that mocking and deriding someone personally, then high-fiving amongst themselves, is the smart strategy. Makes no darn sense!

[randys1]

63. They arent liberals. It is that simple.

NO liberal would risk a con in the WH especially now given they control the other houses and given the teaparty are the ugliest and meanest and most violent of them and they have power now.


I support Bernie, but I would never do anything to risk the con.

Attacking Hillary with smears as they do here all day long, could result in this and if it does, I will blame THEM

Loudly and angrily


If you want to claim you are a liberal, fine. Just understand what that actually means, and many dont.


And by THEY I mean anyone here who focuses on smearing Hillary.

[kwassa]

7. I just ramped back my participation.

I realized that same arguments were being made over and over in hundreds of repetitions, and no progress was being made.

If they weren't listening the first hundred times ....

[freshwest]

8. +1

[calimary]

35. No kidding! Same here.

My rate of posting here is WAY down, too. Life's too short to deal with relentlessly acrimonious stuff like what is now epidemic here. Besides, I value my low blood pressure and I intend to keep it that low!

Got a lot of other things on my plate anyway.

Much love to you, DSB!

[Cha]

43. Good on you, kwassa.

[a kennedy]

9. I'm just sad that this political sh*t has gotten to you....I hope you peace, calm, and tranquility..

[nolabear]

10. I understand. I just dip in and it is hard to recognize the place.

Be well.

[OnyxCollie]

11. Bye.

[JohnnyLib2]

12. Awww, rats.

Our loss, but hopefully just the right thing for you. Take care.

[ismnotwasm]

13. I don't blame you

Too many places are a toxic dump. I back off once I realize I'm taking certain posters or OPs seriously--or semi-seriously--when they merit no such thing. Others are so blarently offensive I don't want to share electronic air with them, I literally feel soiled.

So I get it.

Love and hugs for everything you've done and will do

[Quayblue]

14. you better not go.

Keep it moving and keep it fighting!!!

[Live and Learn]

15. Short, mental health breaks are good. Just don't stay away too long. nt

[DFW]

16. I completely understand

The pH value of several of the boards has dipped to fractions.

We can only hope it climbs back to 7 or above.........

[Starry Messenger]

17. ((hugs))

[Hekate]

19. Taking a mental health day (or month or however long) is an excellent idea.

Be refreshed, be well. The whole world is NOT crazy -- it only looks like it from here.

[Gloria]

20. I've been thinking of doing the same thing..

When Obama was running the first time, my best friend cut me off because I wasn't getting in the bandwagon. I had no first choice at the time, but did have some issues with Obama from some of the research I had done. I just wasn't gung ho.
Well, apparently, that was a no no. I found out that my friend had glommed onto an Obama person which accounted for her distancing herself ftom me. It upset me no end.

I will tell youl that I quit contributing to Buzzflash because the anti-Hillary vitriole got so extreme that it made me sick. It was uncalled for. It's not the way to endear your favorite to a person who is observing and not decided. In fact, it's a turn-off.


I'm seeing the tension and hammering of a candidate to the extreme. I' m feeling that certain groups of people are making me feel like my former friend made me feel. It's uncomfortable and worrisome.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. I completely understand ...

I've cut wayyyy back, myself.

Here's the key I've found helpful ...

There are several poster that I look for and read; other, posters that I refuse to read ... I read the AA Group and the Economy Group ... and only venture into the rest of DU, after a couple of shots.

But Bruh ... do what's best for you ... we have our contact info, so we won't be far apart.

[betsuni]

22. I have a great deal of respect for anyone who can deal with barking dogs.

Thank you and everyone else for having the patience and stamina to do it, until you can't anymore of course. I'm afraid I'm useless because I get so angry that what I think can only be expressed in two little words. Two sweet forbidden words, well, one is forbidden. Two words that go together like toast and butter, roast beef and horseradish, apples and cinnamon, coffee and chocolate. Sometimes I have to tie my arms to the chair to prevent me from typing those (and other forbidden) words. Makes it hard to use the computer but at least I don't risk getting banned.

[zappaman]

23. Will miss your posts.

See you when you return!

[GitRDun]

24. Don't stay away too long!

We'll keep fighting the good fight in your absence

[Gothmog]

25. Please come back soon

[lovemydog]

26. You're a good soul.

Take care DemocratSinceBirth.

Thanks for everything.

[lunamagica]

27. I really like your posts. I hope to see you back soon

[steve2470]

29. Yes, take some time off and a word of advice if I may....

I used to take this site way too seriously. I used to think, incredibly, that it had much more influence on the real world than it actually does.

Yes, it has some influence upon the real world, but I think it's rather small. Most people come here with their minds fully made up and argue their viewpoint. This site is infested with unpaid trolls and people who are oblivious to the black experience.

Learn what you can from here that is useful and discard the rest. Don't engage with people who will never get it. You and I are both white, and we both get it. Don't waste your time. Like pinboy told me one time, don't engage with rabid right-wingers over the Vietnam War. Well, I don't any more, and I won't engage with people who obviously have their minds made up. I feel it's a waste of time.

Best wishes to you!

[Gloria]

31. Good advice..

Extremes on both L & R begin to send out the a same energy....

"The mind is like a parachute...it's only effective when it is open."

My new favorite quote....

[lovemydog]

36. Great points steve2470.

It's kind of like you go to a party and find people you enjoy. There are some genuine & cool human beings here. The rest is static.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

30. Take care, brother.

Your intelligence and humane spirit will be missed while you are gone.

[randys1]

32. I get it, i did this too for a few weeks and it felt great.

[mcar]

33. Sometimes a break is just what you need

Enjoy your time away and come back ready to get back in the fray!

[hrmjustin]

34. I took a month off and it helped. Now that I am posting again I will try to limit my posts

and to avoid posting somedays altogether.

It will be bad during the rest of this year so more breaks for many of us is likely.

You are a gem and were treated like crap. Remember many here love you.

[steve2470]

38. um, that's Nelson Mandela, read the text inside the pic nt

[Number23]

40. I don't blame you one bit. I don't think anyone sane really understands what they're doing here

anymore.

If you come back, please make sure to let me know. I've really enjoyed getting to know you.

[Cha]

45. I took two years off in 2010.. all the doom and gloom exploding about ACA was extraordinarily

vitriolic and ignorant. It's now Obamacare and it's helping millions.. they can't even stand that.

They were wrong then and they're wrong now.

Have a peaceful hiatus DemocratSinceBirth.. you deserve it.

Peace, Love, and Aloha, Cha

#BlackLivesMatter.

[emulatorloo]

49. Have a great break and a good time away from this toxic hell-hole.

I was on break for a while, and it was very good to be away from the negative energy/bullshit/lies.

Will definitely miss your great posts, take care until you are back again.

[Gothmog]

52. Come back soon

[lib87]

53. Come Back Soon

Once things simmer down around here, come on back.

It is sad to see racism alive and well on this board and when it is pointed out, fervent denial and anger.

[pnwmom]

54. We'll miss you, DemocratSinceBirth! Come back soon.

[Cali_Democrat]

56. I'm very sorry to hear this.

Please come back ASAP.

We need you here!

[murielm99]

57. Please come back when you are able.

We need your voice.

[blackspade]

59. You have fought well and from the heart.

This place will be poorer without you.

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. Okay DSB, break's over. I'm starting to get worried. You're sorely missed here.