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Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:55 PM

From: For Harriet "We Need to Stop Sharing Videos of Black Girls In Fights"

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I grabbed the second half of this fairly brief opinion piece. The focus of the first half is the case of the young girl beat in Baltimore late last year. I think they may have pushed this op ed back up to the top of their feed in light of the well publicized case in Brooklyn.

My point in sharing this - is that it starts within the community. Not just the behavior but the sharing of the behavior. Once again we have become the focus of a group of people who know very little about us.

Now once again - This is all they know. This case and the Baltimore case. So they are going to jump on this opportunity (the Brooklyn case) to show some sort of 'concern' that I *think* (only think until proven wrong) they wouldn't be concerned about if it had been several white folks either beating on a black girl or a white girl.

Notice, in the same weekend I saw a dehumanizing of the young women who beat the young lady in Brooklyn - I saw this extreme empathy for two white female tweeners in the midwest who had actually stabbed someone (google Slender Man Stabbing) because they will be tried as adults.

Google Brooklyn McDonalds Beating and Google Slender Man Stabbing - read the comments.

And I disagree with Tyga (who as I understand it upon research is a rapper dating an underage girl) - as did the author of the OP ED. We are there - we exist as role models . . . but it's hard to get America to view us as such - and the media to prop us up as such.



The issue here is that while it’s idiotic to fight, the thousands of videos adorning Black girls throwing bows or beating another girl down feed the idea that we’re violent, aggressive, and angry. Worse, watching one (or more) video automatically breeds another because in a teenager’s mind, having Internet fame is everything. Additionally, enough consumption of violence desensitizes one to it, making it easy to watch, or worse, reenact.

Studies have shown that “exposure to violent media results in a blunting of emotional responses, which in turn may prevent the connection of consequences of aggression with an appropriate emotional response, and therefore may increase the likelihood that aggression is seen as acceptable behavior.”

When Black girls see variations of themselves in a less than positive light, i.e. fight videos, it can be easy for them to have a poor self-image and set lower standards for themselves. They can be confused about how they should act, especially when it comes to tense, stressful, or confrontational situations. And while it may seem fun and harmless at the time, being recorded while viciously beating the life out of someone else – while solo or in a group – could warrant years of unwanted attention, unemployment, and possible jail time. Five of the girls involved in the attack, whose names were not released, have been arrested.

Tyga had the nerve to say that there aren’t a lot of real role models for Black “females” to look up to. He’s wrong. There’s a plethora of Black women out here consciously serving as healthy examples for our daughters. But these videos circulating the web make it harder for teenagers to look up to them.

Please, stop sharing fight videos. Instead, share positive representations of Black women, so our girls can aspire to someone more worthy of their respect than the likes of Sharkeisha.


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What we did get - was yet another White Male Right Wing Talking Head spouting off nonsense about us. Probably has never even had a black person into his home for dinner - yet has all kinds of nonsense to talk - becaus it's ALL he knows. . .

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03/16/white-texas-talk-show-host-uses-brooklyn-mcdonalds-beating-as-opportunity-to-say-nasty-things-about-black-people/
White Texas Talk Show Host Uses Brooklyn McDonald’s Beating As Opportunity to Say Nasty Things About Black People

“We have people living in our country who are savages. Absolutely, positively savages, to engage in this kind of behavior,” Berry said, making it clear he’s talking about Black people. “The whole McDonald’s is full, they’re loving it.”

Berry’s comments came as the girls who were allegedly involved in the beating and apparent robbery surrendered to authorities one-by-one over the weekend. New York police said yesterday only one of the six teenage girls who took part in the attack is still at large. The beating has been viewed hundreds of thousands of times after being posted to YouTube.


Savages - absolute savages. You shouldn't need to google too far to find that word/those words being used to describe black suspects on a regular basis.

Another snippet from the Atlanta Black Star Article:
One of the girls, who is just 14, was removed from an airplane at an international terminal at Atlanta’s airport, reportedly on a plane bound for her native Jamaica. Bail for the purported leader of the attack, Aniah Ferguson, 16, who was arrested on Thursday on charges of robbery and assault in the second degree, was set at $500,000, according to local media.

With the regularity of a clock, you can predict that some white conservative will use the occasion of a Black person committing a crime against another Black person to loudly cry about Black-on-Black crime. They reach for it with obvious glee, claiming that it’s a more serious matter in America than crimes committed against Black people by white racists or white police officers targeting young Black males. This is a favorite tactic of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani,


Funny that. . .

Hey I'm all for free speech - but what can we do to squash:
The behavior.
The recording of the behavior.
The posting of the behavior.
The attention paid to bad behavior.


I truly believe America is an extremely violent country.It's how we started and it's how we'll always be. However - what can we do bring some connections between young black woman - the softness they all hold within - nurture it - and get them to connect? And does our behavior as adults and mentors both in real life and in online environments - how does it prop them up? How can we prop them up?


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JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 OP
blm Mar 2015 #1
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #5
Number23 Mar 2015 #2
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #6
mercuryblues Mar 2015 #3
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #8
Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #4
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #7
MrScorpio Mar 2015 #9
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #10
rbrnmw Mar 2015 #11
cwydro Mar 2015 #12
JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #13

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:01 PM

1. (( ))

Thank you.

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Response to blm (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:22 PM

5. You are quite welcome

And you've been fighting some good fights out there.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:01 PM

2. We need to stop sharing videos of ANYBODY in fights

The immaturity and lack of humanity of anyone that would find shit like this entertaining is just too much. Once you factor in the racism and sexism that always factors into this kind of stuff and it just take it to a whole 'nother level. And of course conservatives will cry that this is proof of the "animal nature" of black folks as they ignore and whitesplain the hell out of the serial killers and school shooters, the vast majority of whom are white, as mentally ill or "anomalies" and not representative of white people in any way.

It used to be that people did stuff like this just because they were bullying assholes. Now, these folks can actually get FAME from this type of behavior and a lot of that is because of the sick individuals that actually seem to get off on watching this kind of crap. I may be biased, I don't even like boxing, but watching 3-4 individuals jump on the head of a person lying on the floor half-unconscious sounds like something Charles Manson and his ilk would do.

Our black girls have caught hell and are still catching it. I just read a story about a beautiful little 10 year old girl who invited a white classmate to her birthday party. The little girl wrote the girl a note saying she couldn't come to her party because her dad wouldn't let her because "she's black." TEN YEARS OLD in fucking 2015 and this mess is STILL going on. We can prop them up the same way our mamas propped us up -- by telling them that despite the fact that you can't open a magazine or turn on the tv without being bombarded with blue eyed blondes (no matter how homely -- Karlie Kloss and Georgia Mae Jagger, I'm looking at you) that you are beautiful and smart and worthy and valuable. That violent behavior like this helps no one and especially not you and the only thing you're doing is giving some really messed up individuals that don't know you and care even less about you a good time and more excuse to call people who look like you animals.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:24 PM

6. In agreement on it all - and re: This

And of course conservatives will cry that this is proof of the "animal nature" of black folks as they ignore and whitesplain the hell out of the serial killers and school shooters, the vast majority of whom are white, as mentally ill or "anomalies" and not representative of white people in any way.

And the next step - the media - all of it - not just 'news sites' then runs with it.


And the gio showed me that article yesterday - re the ten year old little girl. And now he wonders is she going to 'wince' a lot in her life.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:28 PM

3. great post

I truly believe America is an extremely violent country.It's how we started and it's how we'll always be. However - what can we do bring some connections between young black woman - the softness they all hold within - nurture it - and get them to connect? And does our behavior as adults and mentors both in real life and in online environments - how does it prop them up? How can we prop them up?

I wish there was a one size fits all answer. But there is not. For starters when AfAm girls look towards role models, within their community is it discouraging to them? No matter how far the woman have risen and achieved they are still subjected to racism and stereotyping. I am not talking about just the Oprah type as role models. The Drs, the lawyers, the nurses and such. People they see on a daily basis.

I can see where that can be discouraging and have an impact on their self worth. Being told to act a certain way so as not to be stereotyped and then something like this video hits the media, big time and Bam! They played by "societal rules" and still considered no different based on shared skin color. After decades of this, it could wear you down. How does that effect how they raise their kids? I am not thinking it is just the negative effect of stop trying, but sometimes the positive of trying harder feeds back into the cycle.

Set even higher and narrowing standards of behavior so their kids can achieve. And let's face it, kids are going to be kids and mess up at times. With the consequences being far greater for POC. They are pigeon holed into strict behavior, one step out of bounds condemned to the behavior of all blacks.

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:28 PM

8. This exactly -

They played by "societal rules" and still considered no different based on shared skin color. After decades of this, it could wear you down. How does that effect how they raise their kids? I am not thinking it is just the negative effect of stop trying, but sometimes the positive of trying harder feeds back into the cycle.



And the next step - it goes towards thing that for example 1Strongblackman has posted -


Regardless of how much education, success (success doesn't always lead to wealth) - or wealth you obtain - they are not safeguards against every day prejudice and bigotry.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:12 AM

4. These fight videos are embarrasing

not only to the people involved, but to others, too. As these videos get shared, there will continue to be plenty of (non-Black) people who think that we all act like this. And of course when you check the comments of these videos on YouTube, WorldStar, etc., it's like a cesspool. When it's just a video of a group of Whites fighting, they usually don't get judged like how other races do.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:26 PM

7. I've noticed that - I did a little bit of digging around yesterday

You don't see the rampant vicious bigoted comments on the articles/videos of white folks doing this stuff.


A tale of two groups of girls - seriously go read comments online on the slender man articles.


There's nothing but empathy for those two girls. It's jarring - the difference.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2015, 10:29 PM

9. Excellent post

Thank you!

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 19, 2015, 07:21 AM

10. I tried

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Thu Mar 19, 2015, 09:37 AM

11. A Lovely post JAG


The fight video comments are so disgusting it's like they try to say all PoC are like that. When drunk rednecks fight they don't call all white folks savages.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:12 PM

12. Great post.

I am horrified that there are sites where people find it entertaining to watch girls fight.

Cannot understand that mindset. Videos of girls of ANY color (or boys) fighting should not be online.

Something very wrong with those who find these videos to be entertainment.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:44 PM

13. I don't think they should be fighting at all

I look at this behavior and say - girls will be girls. But this extreme violence? There is some payoff we aren't seeing. And it has nothing to do with videos being made or posted online.

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