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Hoe do you like the new DU format? (Original Post) trof Oct 2023 OP
I've figured out what I need to multigraincracker Oct 2023 #1
I don't think it is all that different. LuvLoogie Oct 2023 #2
Lots to like Easterncedar Oct 2023 #3
Skinner mode? trof Oct 2023 #40
Under "My Stuff" Easterncedar Oct 2023 #41
I really appreciate night mode. madaboutharry Oct 2023 #4
What is the night mode? I use Skinner but it is not much different: 2 and 3 clicks question everything Oct 2023 #9
Night mode is light text on a dark background. madaboutharry Oct 2023 #11
In printing lingo it's called a 'reverse'. trof Nov 2023 #43
I don't like.... cannabis_flower Oct 2023 #5
Agree. Seems like there are extra clicks needed to get anywhere I used to go with only one click emulatorloo Oct 2023 #15
Skinner mode is very close to the old look, for me. Croney Oct 2023 #6
I am old and set in my ways to, but I like the new format. Chainfire Oct 2023 #7
Think it's working well. When had option, I stayed with DU3. But DU4 is fine once "forced" to change. Silent Type Oct 2023 #8
Like it! 👍 anciano Oct 2023 #10
I just upgraded from a 8 yr old Samsung to a Pixel 8 Pro... Enter stage left Oct 2023 #12
I've adjusted,,,, KarenS Oct 2023 #13
I'm doing fine with it. Mr.Bill Oct 2023 #14
I use the Skinner mode, area51 Oct 2023 #16
I'm using the skinner mode too and it is fine. Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #28
I'm not seeing improvement. Xoan Oct 2023 #17
DU4 is fine by me. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #18
Don'tlike it. Too much clicking around. Paper Roses Oct 2023 #19
I love it. lamp_shade Oct 2023 #20
Not great for me. No Vested Interest Oct 2023 #21
I'm ok with it but can't find anything bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #22
I pretty much live on Latest Discussions here. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #36
It's okay. Lots more clicking around so not as convenient. Latest Breaking News is very crowded and ratchiweenie Oct 2023 #23
What did you call me????? lillypaddle Oct 2023 #24
Exacto! GreenWave Oct 2023 #38
I love it! PittBlue Oct 2023 #25
The Font lordsummerisle Oct 2023 #26
I like it. Finding out new stuff all the time. walkingman Oct 2023 #27
Not a dig deal in the grand scheme of things rurallib Oct 2023 #29
Love it, in Skinner mode. mahina Oct 2023 #30
I mildly dislike it lapfog_1 Oct 2023 #31
Lotta work in it, and I suppose changes were... TreasonousBastard Oct 2023 #32
this old geezer had no issues migrating. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #33
I adapt. usonian Oct 2023 #34
It's fine PJMcK Oct 2023 #35
The path is not difficult WheelWalker Oct 2023 #37
Nope. Duppers Oct 2023 #39
Its not as good as DU2. Where is the Toon and links to Toons of the day? Its just not very visual of a front page LiberalLovinLug Oct 2023 #42

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
4. I really appreciate night mode.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:18 PM
Oct 2023

I use night mode anywhere I can. It makes all the difference to me, so I am grateful for it being offered here.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
11. Night mode is light text on a dark background.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:34 PM
Oct 2023

The option is in Account Settings under Visual Appearance. You can choose it there.
I have no idea if it is available if you also choose Skinner mode.

I am extraordinarily photosensitive. I wear sunglasses in the rain, seriously. Having a dark background is so soothing for my eyes. It makes a world of difference for me.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
5. I don't like....
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:18 PM
Oct 2023

That I can’t immediately see replies to my posts without making at least 2 clicks. Otherwise it’s okay.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
15. Agree. Seems like there are extra clicks needed to get anywhere I used to go with only one click
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 09:05 PM
Oct 2023

before.

It is ok, not great. But I’ll get used to it.

Enter stage left

(3,396 posts)
12. I just upgraded from a 8 yr old Samsung to a Pixel 8 Pro...
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:46 PM
Oct 2023

adapting to DU4 is a piece of cake compared to getting used to the tech on these new phones.

I understand your reluctance though, 30 years ago I knew all the operating systems of the computers, all the new cameras, and all the new tech on the cellular phones.

I'm no longer interested in trying to keep up. If I need help on the latest tech, I call my grandchildren, and within 2-3 years, my great-grandchildren. They know it all by the time they're 8-10 years old.

We HAVE to adapt. It's the same as with micro-wave ovens, convection ovens, digital cameras, cellular phones, electric vehicles, ordering online...and I could go on forever.

Please try to adapt. We don't want to lose anyone of our friends here on DU because of the progress of that which is inevitable.

KarenS

(4,077 posts)
13. I've adjusted,,,,
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 08:52 PM
Oct 2023

I really like the my stuff tab feature. But I come here for the news, political discussion and cute animal pictures and videos So I've already forgotten why I thought I liked DU3 better BTW I am using Skinner mode.

Mr.Bill

(24,294 posts)
14. I'm doing fine with it.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 09:04 PM
Oct 2023

I usually don't like change, but this has been okay. I should mention that I am strictly a laptop internet person. I didn't get a smart phone until about six months ago.

I have a great grandson who is five years old. He is very autistic and 100% non verbal. He knows more about phones than I do. He likes the games on them.

area51

(11,909 posts)
16. I use the Skinner mode,
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 09:37 PM
Oct 2023

on Chrome with the "Midnight Lizard" add-on that gives multiple choices for night mode.

ShazzieB

(16,399 posts)
18. DU4 is fine by me.
Thu Oct 26, 2023, 10:52 PM
Oct 2023

I've been using it in default mode, and it's just fine as far as I'm concerned. At first I wasn't crazy about having to click "My Stuff" before I could see my subscriptions and my posts, but I'm used to it now, and the more I use the "My Stuff" and "Navigate" panels, the better I like how things are displayed in them.

So yeah, DU4 is working out just great for me. When it first went live, I was surprised by all the negative comments snd sorry to see how much trouble some people were having with it. I hope things have improved by now for most DUers and will continue to improve for the rest.

I wish I could wave a magic wand and make everyone feel as happy and comfortable with DU4 as I am, because it honestly has some great new capabilities that I really find to be improvements.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
21. Not great for me.
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 02:46 AM
Oct 2023

I skip round, trying different approaches.
The older form was more orderly for me.
I'll keep working on it....

bucolic_frolic

(43,167 posts)
22. I'm ok with it but can't find anything
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:49 AM
Oct 2023

The navigation buttons are too big. I can't find computer support. "Latest Breaking" sorted by last reply is beyond my comprehension. I used to rely upon the entire site latest posts. It had variety, was interesting, and political.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
36. I pretty much live on Latest Discussions here.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:47 PM
Oct 2023

Since I usually have DU open, I just refresh Latest Discussions which obviously includes LBN.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
23. It's okay. Lots more clicking around so not as convenient. Latest Breaking News is very crowded and
Fri Oct 27, 2023, 09:38 AM
Oct 2023

hard to look at. No space, just lots of blue ink. I don't go there much now and it used to be my go to.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
29. Not a dig deal in the grand scheme of things
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:27 PM
Oct 2023

a little adapting maybe an extra click or two.

I come for the content and the good stuff is still here.

mahina

(17,659 posts)
30. Love it, in Skinner mode.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:30 PM
Oct 2023

I am so very thankful for this website every day. I donate extra and know it's not nearly enough. I hope everyone here can pitch in some extra whenever possible and for those of us who can't.

Mahalo EarlG.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
31. I mildly dislike it
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:32 PM
Oct 2023

I don't mind change... but I don't like change for the sake of change.

My objections to the new format is that I now have to navigate a number of buttons to menus of other buttons to do what I used to do directly on webpage ( looking for responses to my posts for example ).

I suppose the fewer buttons are easier to paint on a small phone screen. And while I use my phone for a great many things, posting on DU isn't really one of them. I still use my laptop for DU.

Personally I don't know why we can't each have our "own DU custom experience"... i.e. a meta app that allows me to arrange whatever buttons and menus I like in the locations I would like to have them. Along with various panels for content direct access.

I could even imagine a time when I can direct the AI to provide me the interface I want through a series of questions and answers (typed or verbal or whatever). After all, DU at its heart is really a collection of databases of news feeds, postings by members, mail, tagged items that contain video or links to ah-hem "X" or other social media, etc. The rest is mere presentation and navigation.

But that's just me.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
32. Lotta work in it, and I suppose changes were...
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:36 PM
Oct 2023

tested and vetted, but for me there's more clicks than I'm used to.

Haven't used new stuff much, but seems to show some promise.

Pretty soon we'll all forget the old one, as we tend to do.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
33. this old geezer had no issues migrating.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:41 PM
Oct 2023

I tried Skinner mode and, frankly, like the new format a little better,

usonian

(9,809 posts)
34. I adapt.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:44 PM
Oct 2023

I read countless sites every day, with all kinds of visual garbage.

Prior to the DU change, I loaded up one or more "dark" extensions, and use one of the tricks listed below. (*)
By the way, browsers usually have a way to increase the type size. Look for it in your browser. Usually "aA" or View->Zoom In.

So, I concentrate on content. Yes, it seems like there are extra steps to view my post in context, or whatever else needs to be done.

(*) On other sites:
• Make sure my ad-blocker is active.
• Select dark mode if it's not automatic.
• Select "reader" (built-in to Safari and there are many for other browsers as extensions)
--- This strips out all the sidebars, ads, creates a single column with READABLE type, white on black or black on white, not light gray type on a light gray background.
--- Reader/Readability often kills the paywalls or nag-walls!
• Optionally disable javascript to kill the many nags and popups that the adblocker missed.
• Use archive.ph or archive.md to read paywalled articles.

I mention these because they are all USABILITY KILLERS.
Especially the tiny 6-point type.
"The Internet is One Tough Town"
DU4 is a breeze by comparison.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
35. It's fine
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:47 PM
Oct 2023

It’s just a website, after all. I can’t get too worked up if the Administrators decide to evolve their property.

Since DU is one of my favorite sites, I can adapt. So far, so good.

Thanks for asking!

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
42. Its not as good as DU2. Where is the Toon and links to Toons of the day? Its just not very visual of a front page
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 01:41 PM
Oct 2023

DU2 was one of the best designed political discussion boards. I have no idea why Earl wanted to f around with it. Its ugly, unorganized, and more text based and confusing. Just my opinion

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