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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2011, 07:16 PM Dec 2011

Issues for Boomers: the illness or death of our parents

There are so many topics to discuss. Some issues are emotional and many are practical.
Seeing your parent age, get sick, and eventually die is heartbreaking for most people.

How did you handle it?

Later I would like to take up the practical... handling the estate and relatives, and all the other things I bet people don't even think about.

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Issues for Boomers: the illness or death of our parents (Original Post) OKNancy Dec 2011 OP
I'l bet quite a few boomers are caring for children canoeist52 Dec 2011 #1
I'm a boomer. I am having medical issues and my husband is 7 yr younger and he does to. My son southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #2
Sorry you're in that medical situation. It's hard for you to have all that responsibility and worry. canoeist52 Dec 2011 #3
canoeist52 southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #4
I too have an adult child living with me OKNancy Dec 2011 #5
OK Nancy thank your lucky stars your daughter doesn't have children yet. Grandkids southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #6
(((Hug))) Howler Dec 2011 #13
Your a sweety Howler thanks we all need hugs. I know am bitching alot but I guess I southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #16
My heart to Southernyankeebelle. Howler Dec 2011 #20
i'd like to think i'm prepared shanti Dec 2011 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author OKNancy Dec 2011 #8
I really messed up my last post OKNancy Dec 2011 #9
WOW!!! Howler Dec 2011 #14
thanks, she's pretty awesome! shanti Dec 2011 #23
I'm glad things seem to be going well for you and your mother, and I hope she lives a very long time whathehell Jan 2012 #29
so sorry for your loss shanti Jan 2012 #32
Thank you, Shanti whathehell Jan 2012 #34
I've got lots to say here but will wait for the full DU2 to DU3 switch - don't want it to get lost. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #10
I lost my parents many years ago LiberalEsto Dec 2011 #11
I can relate to you. I was 22 when my dad died and we sure weren't prepared for it. My poor southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #17
At the risk of sounding quite SheilaT Dec 2011 #12
My granddaughter is 6 yrs old christmas day. Since last year I am been telling her that she southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #18
Good for you. SheilaT Jan 2012 #27
Excellent point. All I want her to do he get a good decent education even if it a junior college. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #28
Why do you feel "fortunate" that your parents are dead? whathehell Jan 2012 #30
I'm "fortunate" in that we (I'm one of six children) were spared SheilaT Nov 2012 #39
My Mom passed about 6 years ago. Howler Dec 2011 #15
Howler my heart goes out to you. I think having Alzheimer is worse than having cancer. It southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #19
Oh! I count my blessings In my Dad finding her EVERY DAY! Howler Dec 2011 #21
Your lucky she still there for you all. My mom taught me something many years ago and I always southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #22
Excellent Advice Southernyankeebelle! Howler Dec 2011 #24
Don't worry about the spell check. I wouldn't say anything because a person takes the time to southernyankeebelle Dec 2011 #25
You too southernyankeebelle! Howler Dec 2011 #26
In 2011, my 91 yr.-old mother lost her independence and it's awful. sinkingfeeling Jan 2012 #31
I feel for you AND her OKNancy Jan 2012 #33
My 85 year old mother who had early Alzheimer's was furious about having to go to Assisted Living whathehell May 2012 #36
My mother died 38 years ago, when I was 20...it was difficult rustydog Apr 2012 #35
tough post to respond to... DPC.Comment Sep 2012 #37
I've been through it all. Both parents gone, had to deal with the house, estate, everything. codjh9 Nov 2012 #38

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
1. I'l bet quite a few boomers are caring for children
Thu Dec 8, 2011, 08:34 PM
Dec 2011

and caring for parents at the same time. Much stress trying to divide your time! All this while losing your house, your job, and becoming unemployable while waiting and hoping to make it to Medicare and SS.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. I'm a boomer. I am having medical issues and my husband is 7 yr younger and he does to. My son
Thu Dec 8, 2011, 08:43 PM
Dec 2011

lives next door to us. I worry about him and his wife and children. We are finding that we have to help them financially. What money we had saved we always seem to have to touch it for them. I can't tell you the thousands of dollars I have loaned and never got back. I feel when it is my time and I have to meet my maker I can't even die in peace. I worry about my husband and will my son and his wife be able to help him. He takes thinks very hard. He doesn't show it but medical it works on him. No matter how much you are aware time is moving I just keep praying to god help me live another day so I can help my family and especially my grandchild.

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
3. Sorry you're in that medical situation. It's hard for you to have all that responsibility and worry.
Thu Dec 8, 2011, 09:59 PM
Dec 2011

It isn't fair. We are all just one medical disaster away from falling into poverty. My two adult kids are still living with us. There's just no way they can afford to move out with a minimum wage job (one) and huge student loan debt (the other). I worry about something happening to me as I run the household (financial decisions, paying bills, cleaning and shopping) My husband works but this year he had a cutback to four workdays. We're barely breaking even now.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. canoeist52
Thu Dec 8, 2011, 10:29 PM
Dec 2011

I think there are many people in your shoes and my shoes. We all do our best and pray we make it til the next paycheck. I just wish that the people in congress and the senate would see and understand what people are going through. We will survive with the grace of god. Good luck to you and your family. I hope you at least get to have a nice dinner with your family. After all that is what it is all about. This will be the first year my husband will not have to work christmas eve because it falls on his day off this year. I think we are going to go to midnight mass for a change. It always make you feel good. Or maybe watch the mass from Rome. I really wish you a happy holiday. Love and hug your kids because they need us to.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
5. I too have an adult child living with me
Fri Dec 9, 2011, 05:21 AM
Dec 2011

She has a 5-year degree and a bunch of student debt. Of course she graduated at the worst time. Her first job in her field paid so little there was no way she could live on her own. Fortunately she now has a slightly better job with benefits. It will still take her another year to make enough to leave. I'm also fortunate that we get along and except for my husband being a little too protective ( lol), we are doing fine with the arrangement.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
6. OK Nancy thank your lucky stars your daughter doesn't have children yet. Grandkids
Fri Dec 9, 2011, 05:13 PM
Dec 2011

are a blessing and a worry. The way the economy is today know one is safe in a job.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
16. Your a sweety Howler thanks we all need hugs. I know am bitching alot but I guess I
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:57 PM
Dec 2011

am still lucky. I thank the good lord that we are making it. My heart bleeds for the families that are out there in streets who are having a hard time.

Howler

(4,225 posts)
20. My heart to Southernyankeebelle.
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:34 PM
Dec 2011

And you wern't bitchen you were sharing. This is a great place to share similar experiences we Boomers are facing.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
7. i'd like to think i'm prepared
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 03:57 PM
Dec 2011

Last edited Sun May 20, 2012, 03:21 PM - Edit history (1)

for this, but are we ever? my mother is 79, quite healthy and spry, mind still there (although i notice some fading). although she's certainly not wealthy, she made sure that all of her financial bases were covered when she retired. she was a RN, but didn't work long enough to get a pension, just SS. fortunately for her and dad (who is deceased), they sold their house in So Cal when the market was up, and bought a mobile outright in arizona.

mom even took advantage of a longterm care program through my employer that will allow her to stay in her home with home health care in case anything happens. she's very independent, and definitely doesn't want to go to a nursing home or have one of us three kids living with her, although we all would. after dad passed two years ago after a long bout with COPD/lung cancer, she went on a flurry of financial matters, dividing up all her assets at that time, putting us kids on the mobile deed, etc. then if she should die, we wouldn't have to wait for probate to finish before selling it.

we all call her at least once a week as we all live in cali and she in arizona. also, she has neighbors who watch out for her as well as one of those "i've fallen and i can't get up" thingies.

Response to shanti (Reply #7)

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
9. I really messed up my last post
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 04:10 PM
Dec 2011

so much so that I was embarrassed to edit the darn thing!!

Sounds like you mom has things under control.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
29. I'm glad things seem to be going well for you and your mother, and I hope she lives a very long time
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jan 2012

That said, I doubt if you are "prepared"....I thought I was, but I wasn't and I

doubt anyone is.


My mother died five years ago, my father fifteen, and I miss them

and think about them everyday, but most especially around the holidays.

It's been the biggest loss of my life.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
34. Thank you, Shanti
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 08:57 PM
Jan 2012

I keep it together with a little help from

my shrink, lol, along with nice people like you.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
10. I've got lots to say here but will wait for the full DU2 to DU3 switch - don't want it to get lost.
Sat Dec 10, 2011, 06:27 PM
Dec 2011

Will be about all of the things that the passing of my dad in 2007 triggered for our family - and continues to cause difficulties now...mainly between my brother and I (and involves the local caretaking role he has for my mom, who is in assisted living).

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
11. I lost my parents many years ago
Sun Dec 11, 2011, 12:45 PM
Dec 2011

My mom died when I was 23, and my father died when I was 36. I'm 59 now.

It was really hard going through life without my mom, especially getting married, having children, raising children without family support. I did help care for her from age 12 to 23.

I don't have to worry about caring for aging parents now, but I'm sort of making up for it by supporting a 25-year-old kid, and paying every penny of both kids' student loans.

Estates? Nada.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
17. I can relate to you. I was 22 when my dad died and we sure weren't prepared for it. My poor
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:24 PM
Dec 2011

mother didn't drive, never wrote a check or paid the bills. My dad was old fashioned believing he was the bread winner and he took care of the bill paying and she took care of the house and family. My dad use to help mom on the weekends by taking us kids out so she could have time to herself. He was wonderful. I was mad when he died (as if he wanted to) because he left 2 younger children. My parents had 6 kids. Four within 2 yrs apart then 10 yrs pass and they had 2 more. I think god gave my mom 2 more to keep her busy when he died. My oldest brother took care of the funeral arrangements and we all split what bills she left unpaid. You know I don't care how prepared you think you are you always forget something.

GOOD LAUGH FOR YOUR DAY.

Now my in-laws were better prepared. However I have to say my mother-in-law after my father-in-law died went back in time. She was 82 yrs old when her husband died. He died in Oct and 31 Dec she wanted to go to a night spot for New Years Eve. I just couldn't believe it. My husband and I don't do bars but she wanted to go and we took her and dropped her off then picked her up at 1:00 am in the morning. She was alittle tipsy. That wasn't the Kicker. She started hanging around these farmers around our rural area. They are in their late 40s and 50s. She would go to the bar with them she would drive home and those guys would be over at her house. I mean there was no following around. How would you like coming home from work at 9:30 in the evening and it is the police department telling you they have your mother-in-law in jail? Its funny now but not at the time. We had to bail her out and of course she had to go to court. OMG I begged them to let her go first because the court room was crowded. LOL. That damn judge called her up and I went with her because she was very nervous and the judge looked at me and had the nerve to ask me where was I. I looked at him and I told him that I was at work and the last time I checked she was well over 21. She had to pay a fine. But it didn't stop her from enjoying her life although it worried the heck out of my husband and I. She finally did slow down at the age of 89 when she ended up in the nursing home because she fell and she never would try to move from her fall.

Life really is a bowl of cherries like Erma Bombeck would say

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. At the risk of sounding quite
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:42 PM
Dec 2011

heartless, I'm fortunate in that both of my parents are dead. Dad died in 1973 at age 59, Mom in 1999 at 82.

My two sons are grown (24 and 29) and self-supporting. No grandchildren.

When they were in college I kept on telling them that they were going to have to earn a living, so be sure to get a degree that would get them a decent job. I just want to scream at young people who simply major in something that seems nice at the time, without any thought whatsoever as to the jobs in that field. Especially if they are taking out student loans.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
18. My granddaughter is 6 yrs old christmas day. Since last year I am been telling her that she
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:30 PM
Dec 2011

is beautiful, she is very smart, and find a job you are going to like and make sure you get a college degree that can make you be able to support yourself. I tell her no babies or marriage until you graduate from college. No babies until you get married. We go through this little speech all the time because I want her to be able to take care of herself. I told her that she might be lucky and find a good man like grandpa but you must be able to support yourself and not to depend on anyoneelse but yourself. She understands this at 6 yrs old. Especially our daughters need to know this.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
27. Good for you.
Sun Jan 1, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jan 2012

Just keep in mind, that it's not just four year degrees that lead to good, well-paid work. Junior colleges have wonderful programs that take the student directly to a good job. My older son got a CAD (Computer Aided Design) degree at his junior college and is gainfully employed and well paid. He commented to me that he's making more money than he actually thought he would in this work.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
28. Excellent point. All I want her to do he get a good decent education even if it a junior college.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 10:22 AM
Jan 2012

It may be the only thing she can afford but I want her to get a education that leads to a decent paying job and a junior college can do that also. I totally agree with you. I just want her to make sure she can support herself and not have to depend on a man. My nephew does some type of work for the government with computers. He gets to travel all over the place. He gets well paid. He dad is brillant and can make a computer from scratch. Funny thing he got a 4 yr all paid scholarship. He had decided to be a teacher. I never thought he had the patients to be a teacher. Anyone he had to stay in the district one year. After that year he got out of teaching. He is happier now. It is a good field. So is the nursing field. Good for your son finding a job he loves. You should be proud for giving him his start in life with good parenting. I hope and pray that I get to see my granddaughter at least graduate from high school and going to college. Am 64 yr old and have a heart condition. I pray every night.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
39. I'm "fortunate" in that we (I'm one of six children) were spared
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

the kind of caretaking of an elderly parent that happens to so many adult children.

My father basically drank himself to death. My mother had moved us children across the country from upstate NY to Tucson, AZ in 1963 because Dad was getting more and more abusive. Best thing she ever could have done for us.

My Mom was always in excellent health until she fell on Christmas Eve, then was in and out of hospitals and rehab places for three months. She was doing fine, recovering, when she suddenly had a stroke and died within thirty minutes. Her passing was unexpected, and we of course all wish she'd lived for many years more. But it could have been much worse, and is for many others.

Howler

(4,225 posts)
15. My Mom passed about 6 years ago.
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 05:56 PM
Dec 2011

it was quick with no warning.

My Dad lives in northern Mich with his beautiful third wife of 25 years who takes impeccable care of him. I just love her!

My Dad has just been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s though he has been in decline for some time.
I have long talks on the phone with her and let her vent and just listen to her.
My Dad was a super intelligent and vital man.He is and was a very gifted person as well in art,music,technology you name it.
Its very hard.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
19. Howler my heart goes out to you. I think having Alzheimer is worse than having cancer. It
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:33 PM
Dec 2011

is sad to hear your gifted father is going to lose his talents because of memory loss. God bless your step mom. You are lucky to have her in your life to take care and love your father. God be with your family.

Howler

(4,225 posts)
21. Oh! I count my blessings In my Dad finding her EVERY DAY!
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 06:41 PM
Dec 2011

She is one of those rare people who inspire the rest of us to be and do better .
She is very gentle and has a sublime sense of humor! She is a gemini.
She brings our family closer instead of trying to divide us like my Dad's second wife. UGH! LOL!


rutt row....HAHAHA!!!!1 Mommy issues at 52 years old ......HAHAHAHA!!!!! Imagine that!snort!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
22. Your lucky she still there for you all. My mom taught me something many years ago and I always
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:22 PM
Dec 2011

kept it in my mind. She said never put your mate (husband in my case) in middle of a problem you are having with his parent. I always kept that in mind and never put my husband in the middle for him to make a decision. No argument is worth having you fight with your husband over. He did the same for me. We have been married 32 yrs.

Howler

(4,225 posts)
24. Excellent Advice Southernyankeebelle!
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:30 PM
Dec 2011

Your Mom was a very wise woman!
I also think No one should have to choose between their spouse and any relatives. We all want the best possiable happiness for all the people in our lives!


P.S.
I cannot wait till we get spell check back!!!! LOL!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
25. Don't worry about the spell check. I wouldn't say anything because a person takes the time to
Fri Dec 30, 2011, 07:52 PM
Dec 2011

respond to my comment. My spelling and grammar could use checking. Yes my mom was a very wise woman. But then again most mothers are, lol. Good luck.

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
31. In 2011, my 91 yr.-old mother lost her independence and it's awful.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 03:49 PM
Jan 2012

She is almost completely blind, can hardly walk with a walker, and has kidney failure. She had to leave her 'senior' apartment where she'd lived for 15 years and move into an assisted living home. She hates it and is fighting her current status with everything she's got. She's terribly depressed and making my sister, brother-in-law, and myself feel like evil beings for putting her there. She's never been in any type of 'communal living' arrangement and the aides dislike her 'attitude'. We don't know what to do. Her main problem is that her mind is still as sharp as a tack and she just wants things the way they were.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
33. I feel for you AND her
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jan 2012

It makes me worry about my own future. Not only for my mother, but for myself if I were ever in your mother's situation.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
36. My 85 year old mother who had early Alzheimer's was furious about having to go to Assisted Living
Thu May 17, 2012, 11:56 PM
May 2012

at first, but she got over it rather quickly.

She got involved with the activities, made some friends, and in not

too long a time, she even had a boyfriend!

If you're mother's relatively new there, you might

want to give her some time.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
35. My mother died 38 years ago, when I was 20...it was difficult
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:16 PM
Apr 2012

My dad is in his mid eighties and I will be devastated when he passes.

 

DPC.Comment

(42 posts)
37. tough post to respond to...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:04 AM
Sep 2012

with aging and ill parents myself, this is tough to respond to, but important. Emotionally, it seems that if ones parents didn't prepare their kids for the eventuality of their death, it may to late for US -- however there is still good news if you have kids of your own. Take time to talk with them about it so that they understand aging and death as a natural (albeit still difficult) part of life. Legally -- uff -- that is tough and also emotional. Aging parents sometimes get suspicious and hurtful when they don't really mean it, it is just tough. Best solution: talk with parents about how they want things to work BEFORE they get to that stage. Best wises as you work through this tough issue.

codjh9

(2,781 posts)
38. I've been through it all. Both parents gone, had to deal with the house, estate, everything.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:31 AM
Nov 2012

It was tough. Both parents had hospice, though, and I was there for Mom, damn it (I just mean it's hard for me to talk about it), as well (i.e. me AND hospice). Yes, it was quite heartbreaking, as I was very close to both parents ... closer than my brothers were with them. But although I didn't do a perfect job, I was glad I was there for Mom in her last 10-11 months.
I used my parents' lawyer - who was also a friend (of them, but of me too) - who didn't charge me excessively, and guided me through the will/probate process.

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