Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumHow I Ended My Lifelong Love Affair With Guns
As a child, the author fired rounds with his father and believed owning weapons made people safer. Here's what changed his mind.
Jul 25 2012, 3:30 PM ET
... My dad was a champion marksman and gun collector, and I was a 6 year-old boy version of Saoirse Ronan's reindeer-hunting Finnish girl in last year's movie Hanna. By the time I entered fourth grade, I knew how to field strip, clean, and reassemble several types of revolvers, semi-automatic pistols and rifles. I knew wadcutters from hollow points. I knew how to ease my breath and relax my trigger pull for a better shot ...
I became an adult who felt uncomfortable in a domicile that didn't have a weapon in it. I imagined the horror stories from the NRA's magazine, The American Rifleman - stories culled from the pages of newspapers of home intruders, usually, foiled with the help of a firearm - and wished for a gun of my own. When I finally got one, at 20, I was able to sleep soundly. When I heard creaks or strange noises in the Chicago house that I rented with a handful of roommates, I wasn't afraid. I felt empowered and in control ...
Several years ago, my then-girlfriend and I were mugged on the street by an assailant with a gun one block away from a local police station and two blocks away from my home. Despite having only $10 to give him, he graciously opted not to shoot us with the black 9mm he was brandishing in our faces. He was never caught. Conceal-and-carry proponents would have you believe that a secreted snubnose would have changed that outcome. That blithe action-movie attitude ignores the fact that I'd have spent the rest of my life haunted by the memory of the stranger I'd killed over $10 ...
There are obvious reasons that firearms in the hands of civilians make less and less sense: denser populations; higher powered weaponry; ever-looser regulation that prevents weapons from being effectively tracked from owner to owner, better enabling sales to criminals. But just as important is the dissolution of the social mores that once corralled the behavior of civilian gun-owners: the knowledge of one's neighbors; a sense of participation in a community; respect for others, even if their political views didn't align with your own ...
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/07/how-i-ended-my-lifelong-love-affair-with-guns/260327/
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Well, yes, you do, actually. Edit: Oops, I mean the paper targets. Hunting, no. Duh.
What a rubbish article.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Or on private property enjoying these items as they're intended.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Other than to kill a lot of people without having to change magazines.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)without having to change magazines.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Do that shit somewhere else.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Fuck the NRA
Clames
(2,038 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...is worth lives.
Clames
(2,038 posts)...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Still a questionable "sport/hobby."
ileus
(15,396 posts)Trunk Monkey
(950 posts)First, you're not trying to kill the stranger you are defending yourself.
Second it's not about the 10 bucks, it's about the fact that by pointing a firearm at me (and God forbid my wife) he has presented a credible threat of deadly force and I have every right in the world to act as if he intends to carry his implicit threat out.
Finally if the mugger dies as a result of his choice to threaten me with deadly force that's a risk he chose to take.
alabama_for_obama
(136 posts)I don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand. A person threatens you, you should take it seriously.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 31, 2012, 09:49 AM - Edit history (1)
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...
MercutioATC
(28,470 posts)However, the author's contention that a breakdown of yesteryear's standards of community and social responsibility make private gun ownership unsustainable are not logical. Those very people who are the least connected to the community will be those who will have guns, legal or not. It will be the people that we DON'T have to worry about who will be unarmed...and unable to protect themselves if they so choose.
Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)It very well might have. There are countless stories every year of armed victims successfully defending themselves from armed criminals. Maybe it would not have made any difference at all. Maybe it would have gotten them both killed.
But we'll never know. We'll never know, because the victims never had any other choices but to comply. They are simply lucky that compliance paid off.
That blithe action-movie attitude ignores the fact that I'd have spent the rest of my life haunted by the memory of the stranger I'd killed over $10 ...
I find this logic baffling. Why on Earth would you shed a tear over killing a stranger over ten dollars when that stranger was perfectly willing to kill two people for ten dollars?!?!
Clearly the criminal did not value your lives as more than $5 a piece.
Furthermore, if the criminal finds his own life worth only ten dollars to risk it on a robbery, hey, who am I to argue with his assessment of his own worth?
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)rDigital
(2,239 posts)myself.
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)However, he does not appear to respect my right to make the opposite choice for myself. He wants to push his choice down my throat. Such an attempt by him will be met with resistance.
Marinedem
(373 posts)My thoughts exactly.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)And if he's murdered anyone yet.
Remmah2
(3,291 posts)nt
HALO141
(911 posts)Sounds like a good place to pick up some stuff CHEAP.
HALO141
(911 posts)regarding his personal safety and that of his wife.
I do, of course,demand the same in return.
rDigital
(2,239 posts)especially when it comes to personal protection.
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)People should be free to engage in the activity or not.
Apparently, the author still has his daddy's guns. Nice fuckin hypocrite he is.
And apparently his ended love affair (with other people's guns) is predicated on a lie -- "with this country's increasing numbers of violent murders."
This, I find, is typical of anti-gun freak.