KKK confrontation leads to charge against Butler County man

[SecularMotion]

A Fairfield Twp. man was cited for aggravated menacing over the weekend during a gathering of Ku Klux Klan members in northwest Ohio.

“By all accounts this was a semi-organized attempt by the Klan,” said Hardin County Sheriff Keith Everhart. “There were five to seven of them walking around and some of our residents took offense to them and confronted them.”

Kevin A. Gibbs, 22, of the 3000 block of Stockbridge Lane in Fairfield Twp. was cited for aggravated menacing and obstructing justice after witnesses said he pulled a revolver from his holster, pointed it to the ground and told a 46-year-old black man from the nearby village of Ridgeway, “I will kill you,” according to police reports.

Everhart said Gibbs was legally carrying the weapon, and no other citations were issued from the gathering.

http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/kkk-confrontation-leads-to-charge-against-butler-county-man-1351017.html?viewAsSinglePage=true

[safeinOhio]

1. Well, that sucks.

Open carry + KKK = what could possibly go wrong?

[rfranklin]

2. Another upstanding citizen allowed to carry...

and prevent a black guy from mugging him.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. He must have looked charming with his gun hanging out

from a holster strapped around his robe.

[bottomofthehill]

4. Open Carry, fine, Conceal Carry with permit, fine, but once you brandish and make a threat, NOT FINE

WHAT A JACKASS,
Arrest, Check
Convict, then remove his ability to possess a firearm.
things like this reflect poorly on responsible gun ownership.

[safeinOhio]

6. both charges are misdemeanors in ohio, might keep his guns.

Of course if he had been a member of a minority group, they'd found some felony to charge him with.. 2903.21 Aggravated menacing.
(A) No person shall knowingly cause another to believe that the offender will cause serious physical harm to the person or property of the other person, the other person’s unborn, or a member of the other person’s immediate family.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of aggravated menacing. Except as otherwise provided in this division, aggravated menacing is a misdemeanor of the first degree. If the victim of the offense is an officer or employee of a public children services agency or a private child placing agency and the offense relates to the officer’s or employee’s performance or anticipated performance of official responsibilities or duties, aggravated menacing is a felony of the fifth degree or, if the offender previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to an offense of violence, the victim of that prior offense was an officer or employee of a public children services agency or private child placing agency, and that prior offense related to the officer’s or employee’s performance or anticipated performance of official responsibilities or duties, a felony of the fourth degree.

[gejohnston]

18. In Florida that would be a felony

including open carry.

[bottomofthehill]

5. He was legally carrying the firearm until such time that he chose to use it to make a threat

then he was no longer acting in a legal way and should not only have been arrested but held on a high bail as he has shown himself to be a threat with the ability to make good ( not the best term) on his threat.

[GreenStormCloud]

7. Out of over 10 million with CCWs there will be a few bad apples.

You are trying to imply that all of us with CCWs are guilty by association. Won't work.

I don't know the law in Ohio but in Texas he would lose his permit in addition to anything else that may be his sentence.

[safeinOhio]

8. No where were CCWs mentioned.

Open carry requires no background check. The guy could legally buy the handgun at a garage sale and open carry. He most likely didn't have a permit and didn't need one to open carry.

I'm with you on permits to open carry, just like CCW to make sure open carry people are screened like CCW's.


"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

[GreenStormCloud]

9. OK. I thought it was CC. N/T

[ileus]

10. WTH do KKK members come from?

What does the North do to cultivate this kind of hate among it's citizens? I've never seen or heard of the KKK here in my part of the south.


Open carry is great and all but if you're out doing stuff just to piss people off, firearms are best left at home. Any conflicts encountered should be handled with words not fists or weapons.




This statement is pretty sweet if you read it correctly. Mr. Ratleff contrary to popular, belief wasn't intimidated by an Open Carrier. Even thought the open carrier was engaging in a rather hostile type of protest designed to intimidate.

“They were over in the area and I reacted to it and I shouldn’t have,” said Kenneth Ratleff, the alleged victim. “I told them, ‘We don’t need this kind of garbage in the area.’ It’s a good community.”

[Hoyt]

11. Won't be listed in statistics as firearm violence -- but it is typical gunster intimidation.

Another good reason to restrict public carrying, and promote a new attitude toward those who do.

[Glaug-Eldare]

12. Any evidence that this is "typical?" n/t

[Hoyt]

13. Yes. Have seen it myself and bet you have too -- TBaggers and Minutemen provide good examples.

You need to open your eyes/mind and admit guns are used by callous people -- particularly right wingers -- to intimidate people.

[Glaug-Eldare]

14. And I've seen rioters throw glass bottles,

that doesn't make it a typical use thereof.

[Common Sense Party]

15. No, you haven't seen it yourself, and neither have I.

Is exaggeration all you have?

[Hoyt]

16. Would you like to bet?

[Ashgrey77]

17. And you, yourself need to open your eyes/mind,

and admit that normal wellbalanced leftwingers carry firearms for self defense. It's only intimidating it you let it intimidate you. Firearms are harmless when unloaded and holstered. And just to be clear, the state I live in considers intimidation with a firearm a crime, as do most states, a little law called "brandishing".

[Hoyt]

19. Assuming a gun toter is "liberal," to make the few of them happy we have to accept tens of thousands

of right wing, callous, gun toters. The gun pollution is really not worth it, IMO.

Firearms aren't "harmless" -- if they were, the gunsters wouldn't spend so much time playing and obsessed with the dang things. Zimmerman is a good example of a "law-abiding" toter, who was harmless right up until he shot an unarmed teenager. If the fucker was unarmed, he would never have gotten out of his car, much less shot an unarmed person.

[Glaug-Eldare]

20. You keep repeating this name Zimmerman over and over again

as though 1) he had been convicted, and 2) his name is kryptonite to gun owners.

Neither of these things are true. Hauling one name out over and over again doesn't prove that the armed folks across the Potomac are any more bloodthirsty than we are here.

[Hoyt]

21. Just a well known example of what you guys would consider exemplary gun toter who

wasn't after he shot unarmed teenager after chasing him with his gun bought and carried for courage and power.

[Glaug-Eldare]

22. You sure do speculate a lot. Any idea where Jimmy Hoffa is? n/t

[Hoyt]

23. I know my gun toters -- not all, but most.

I've got a few ideas on Hoffa, but it will cost you.

[Straw Man]

24. You know nothing.

You demonstrate that daily in this forum: unfounded speculation, broad-brush slurs, and tired old canards. That's your game.

[SGMRTDARMY]

25. There are a few gun control proponents

here that I really like reading as they at least try to make a case for gun control without the name calling or distortions, unfortunately, that gentleman is not one of them.

The one I really enjoy reading is Starboard Tack.

[L0oniX]

26. In Florida doing that would get you a mandatory 3 year sentence.