Gun Control & RKBA
Related: About this forumIt is a common misconception...
...that laws are meant to control the common people and limit aberrant behavior. Laws are the standards by which the justice system, without malice or prejudice, convicts those whose behavior is harmfully, anti-social.
Laws that control people are themselves anti-social in that they work, not to enlighten nor to protect the peoples' freedoms, to advance a type of limited slavery. We have protection from prior restraint. Would not the same principle apply to many basic freedoms?
From Noah Webster, linguist:
From his cousin Daniel Webster, Senator and Secretary of State:
Find the spirit to discern and vote against such candidates.
Warpy
(111,437 posts)and those popguns will be of little use against tanks, bombers, and fighter planes.
I find the "opposition to tyranny" argument ludicrous.
That being said, I live in bear, coyote and cougar country. People outside town need their firearms around here.
I already vote against a candidate who says the freedom of "some" people needs to be limited. Those candidates are generally Republicans.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)...occupation for an argument that they would useful against annihilation is setting up a straw-man.
Would not a governor mean to govern over more than just casualties?
krispos42
(49,445 posts)It was hard enough in Iraq and Afghanistan, when we had secure supply lines and our base of supplies was on our own soil; and when the people we were targeting were of a very different culture, language, religion, and ethnic group.
If America was dissolving into civil insurrection, what would happen to the places that produced the tanks, bombers, and fighters? How would food and fuel flow across this country? And how would the military split when mass slaughters of innocents started?
Who do you bomb? How would a conservative, southern government get Sikorsky or Pratt & Whitney or Lockheed to keep the supplies of spares and new products flowing?
How would the massive oil supplies that this country needs to run get through a fragmented infrastructure? How would food move from the interior farm country to the populated coastlines? How would coal and natural gas flow from the mines and the field and the ports to the power plants?
Damned if I know, but I know it would be chaos! The longer the chaos goes on, the more the high-tech gizmos will fall into disrepair. The military will become more like "Saving Private Ryan" and less like "Act of Valor"... men with guns, poor communication, poor transportation, depending on eyes and ears instead of radar and drones and infrared.
Clames
(2,038 posts)In fact, even with all that technology, tanks have been defeated by very rudimentary IED's that are within the manufacturing capacity of anyone with some scrap metal and a hammer. In case you haven't been paying attention the last 10 years, we've been fighting a war against people armed with old Russia and Chinese popguns.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)you show up in your $20 million dollar tank, and I'll show up with my $800-$1400 disposable rocket launcher. Oh yeah, some of my pals just blew up the supply line, and a tank's fuel efficiency is measured by gallons per mile.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)...the LA cops just bought for cheap.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Please go brief the Afghans that their cause is doomed.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)The one opposing the Russians???
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)or, fill in the blank.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)They don't believe in guns.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Those western guys were a real pain in the ass...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)...which one?
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)Be sure not to miss the double entendre.
I'm here all week....
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)You certainly are, as am I.
Callisto32
(2,997 posts)fight the people IN the tank.
Small arms are of little use against tanks, bombers, and fighter planes?
How do you explain the Soviets' failure to dominate Afghanistan in the 80's?
How do you explain our failure to dominate Iraqi and Afghani insurgents?
History contains numerous examples of people with inferior firepower defeating or holding off those with superior firepower, to include our own forefathers against the might of the British Empire.
What's the secret? You adapt your tactics and strategy accordingly to use your asymmetrical firepower in asymmetrical ways against a more well-equipped enemy.