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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 08:26 PM Jun 2015

One Armed Store Owner vs. Three Robbers (one armed) in Fort Worth.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/17/robbery-shot-and-killed-by-store-clerk-in-fort-worth/

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/tarrant-county/2015/06/17/armed-robbery-fort-worth-shooting/28880959/

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Deadly-Shooting-at-Fort-Worth-Grocery-Store-307956631.html

Second link has video.

FORT WORTH (CBSDFW.COM) – An attempted robbery at a Fort Worth grocery store ended in one of the alleged robbers shot to death by the owner.

Police say three men walked into the store with a shotgun. One suspect demanded money. The second one had the shotgun and the third was standing next to the man with the weapon.

Police say the store owner gave his wallet to the first suspect then pulled out a gun and shot the suspect holding a gun. He died at the scene.

The two who were not hit ran off.


So one robber is holding a shotgun on the owner, the owner hands over his wallet, THEN pulls his gun and shoots the robber. That takes a great deal of courage, and situational self-awareness that many people would not have.

But considering we have had two murders of store clerks in the DFW area, one the mother of two:

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/10/convenience-store-clerk-shot-and-killed-in-the-colony/

And the other one where the clerk of a Subway store gave them the money, and then got killed,

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/06/robbers-shoot-kill-worker-at-subway-restaurant-in-oak-cliff.html/

Taking a chance of responding with deadly force might be best choice.
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One Armed Store Owner vs. Three Robbers (one armed) in Fort Worth. (Original Post) MicaelS Jun 2015 OP
I've noticed a lot of these DGU stories have the would-be victim acting AFTER the criminals Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #1
Yes, I have noticed that, too. n/t MicaelS Jun 2015 #2
If I may... NV Whino Jun 2015 #3
Noted, thanks for the information. MicaelS Jun 2015 #4
"One-armed" is hyphenated? JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #5
I read it as the guy having only one arm NV Whino Jun 2015 #6
Under the (current) rules of GD's TOS, this OP could go there.... Eleanors38 Jun 2015 #7
what's the problem? jimmy the one Jun 2015 #8

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
1. I've noticed a lot of these DGU stories have the would-be victim acting AFTER the criminals
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 10:17 PM
Jun 2015

present a gun or other weapon.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
3. If I may...
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:16 PM
Jun 2015

The headline should read: one-armed store owner vs three robbers, one armed, in Fort Worth.

I know the author was trying to be clever, but correct grammar would have helped. Sigh.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
4. Noted, thanks for the information.
Wed Jun 17, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jun 2015

I get ticked when others do not use proper punctuation, and capitalization. So I can always use some education where I lack knowledge.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
5. "One-armed" is hyphenated?
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jun 2015

Did the store owner only have one arm? That's how I'd parse the hyphenation.

I only went to one of the links, didn't see anything about the owner missing an arm.

It's a tough headline to write and make it informative. "Armed Store Owner vs Three Armed Robbers" would work. The two that weren't armed are still guilty of armed robbery. Maybe except for the dead guy, that one might be moot.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
6. I read it as the guy having only one arm
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jun 2015

Basically, it's a headline trying to be clever and failing.

And, after perusing the links, it seems he had two arms, which negates the hyphenation. Sigh, again.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. Under the (current) rules of GD's TOS, this OP could go there....
Thu Jun 18, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jun 2015

since a long discussion of defensive use of firearms was allowed to stand, probably because it was couched in an anti RKBA manner.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
8. what's the problem?
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 02:20 PM
Jun 2015

Micael S: So one robber is holding a shotgun on the owner, the owner hands over his wallet, THEN pulls his gun and shoots the robber. That takes a great deal of courage, and situational self-awareness that many people would not have.

But considering we have had two murders of store clerks in the DFW {dallas tex} area, one the mother of two:
And the other one where the clerk of a Subway store gave them the money, and then got killed,


Taking a chance of responding with deadly force might be best choice.

You post 3 examples of store clerks or personnel, where one used a gun in a bona fide defensive gun use (dgu);
Most all gun control advocates would have no problem whatsoever with these people having a gun behind the counter or even carrying it while on the job. They are most likely stable & identifiable, and you don't think we find fault with the store owner shooting the robber with the shotgun do you? bravo to him, live by the gun die by the gun.
It is the ability to carry a concealed firearm or unconcealed firearm wherever one wants, simply because anyone wants to, which is the rub.
There are lots & lots of people, a significant minority of American adults, who should NOT be allowed to carry a firearm on their person, & some who should not even be allowed to own one.

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