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Related: About this forum‘Responsible’ Ammosexual Accidentally 2nd Amendments Woman at Gun Show
A vendor at a gun show demonstrated responsible firearm ownership at a Pennsylvania gun show on Saturday when he managed to Second Amendment a customer while showing her a product.
Victim Krista Gearhart says that while Geoffrey Hawk, owner of ironically named In Case of Emergency, was demonstrating a holster at the Eagle Arms Gun Show at the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds he accidentally shot her in the legbecause everyone knows its a great idea to carry a weapon with the safety off.
Gearhart was taken to Geisinger Medical Center in Danville, where she was treated and released.
The shooting has been ruled an accident, and no charges will be filed.
Recently, because of responsible gun owners we have seen God exercise his will and cause a 5-year-old boy to shoot his twelve-year-old sister with a gun his parents bought him and an artillery shell smash into the side of a house three miles from where it was fired (Which, coincidentally, was the Full Auto Shoot and Trade Show in Oklahoma). Those, too, were accidents.
Unfortunately, the vague wording of the Second Amendment allows people who should not be allowed to sharpen a pencil to operate hot lead dispensers. We live in a cruel, crazy world.
http://aattp.org/responsible-ammosexual-accidentally-2nd-amendments-woman-at-gun-show/
Styx
(30 posts)I really think your point would be stronger without all the insults and labels and snark. Perhaps substitute a realistic law or regulation that would prevent more incidents like this? Every gun show I've ever attended prohibited loaded weapons on site except for on-duty LEOs.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)The shooter clearly was not a "responsible gun owner". He violated several show regulations and may have violated state law.
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)From the various articles I've read, it appears he didn't properly clear his gun. The magazine was removed but he forgot about the round in the chamber. An error people sometimes make when unloading a semi-auto. The second mistake he made was not checking to see if the gun was unloaded before he used it to show the woman how it fitted in the holster and the third mistake he made was pointing the gun at the woman instead of a safe direction.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)it is against the rules to load the weapons that are for sale to be demonstrated for customers. It is obvious this guy was not being responsible. Do not lie about the facts.
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)"Police said Hawk told them he had left the gun on display when he completed background checks on some customers and believes it's possible someone loaded the gun when he was busy."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/gun-show-shooting_n_5542670.html
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)but of course before handling the gun he should have checked to see if it was loaded. If did not, then he was not being responsible.
sarisataka
(18,857 posts)Even if the gun is in a box right from the factory.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I was recently at my brother's house. He's a retired cop but got a job with the U.S. Marshal's office. They issued him a gun and he was showing it to me and my father. He handed it to me and I asked him why he didn't rack the slide to show me it was unloaded. He said he did it in the other room (I believe him) and that he should have done it in front of me. He then did it again. He handed it to me and I did it as well. Overkill? I don't think it's possible.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)is a recurring meme amongst the pro-control crown. It appears some think it is the height of cleverness. You never hear "responsible driver backs over 5 year old" or "responsible electrician electrocutes himself". Clearly this guy was not a "responsible gun owner" due to the incident. Attempting to label him as such appears to be a back-door way of conducting a broad-brush smear of all gun owners.
Kaleva
(36,372 posts)He may well have been a very responsible gun owner prior to that day when he ignored gun show rules prohibiting loaded guns and also violated safety rules he himself taught to many of his students.
liberal N proud
(60,349 posts)I am not a gun nut, but I know that every time you pick up a gun, you should treat it like it could be loaded.
DonP
(6,185 posts)2. Never let the muzzle point at anything you don't want to destroy
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)blueridge: Why lie? The shooter clearly was not a "responsible gun owner". He violated several show regulations and may have violated state law.
Duh, happens regularly at gunshows, only without negative consequence; this one is the tip of the iceberg since it resulted in a gunshot wound.
Blueridge demonstrates the nra view - up to the minute the infraction is committed the shooter was a largo (law abiding responsible gun owner), but then gets thrown under the bus after the fact.
Should his right to keep & bear arms be infringed upon now? now that he's an irresponsible gun owner?
donp: That's the number 1 rule - "All guns are always loaded"
2. Never let the muzzle point at anything you don't want to destroy
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Know your target and what is beyond it.
You'd need remind largos of this thousands of times daily, & stiil wouldn't do much good.
Doesnt' work very well with eddie eagle graduates either.
Maybe #5 is needed for gunnuts:
#5 Always check to see whether a bullet is in the chamber by looking down the front of the barrel.
Might save somebody's life someday.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)You have stats to back this claim up?
up to the minute the infraction is committed the shooter was a largo (law abiding responsible gun owner)
As is everyone until the first time they screw up royally. Yet you don't hear "responsible driver backs over 5 year old"
Should his right to keep & bear arms be infringed upon now? now that he's an irresponsible gun owner?
Don't know about his right to keep arms, that would depend on whether he is convicted of a felony or domestic violence misdemeanor that would, after due process of law, remove his right to own a firearm. I could see removing his Carry Permit due to the incident.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)But he'll take 1500 horribly-parsed words to say it...
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)My reading comprehensions skills are, clearly, lacking. Probably because I am a "gun-humping", "tiny-penis" "Ammosexual". Or a closeted racist, Randy Weaver apologist who can't be trusted with a bicycle tire or can of beans, much less a firearm.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)and "Second Amendmented"...
Sure signs of desperation by the side that is losing the war for support of their mission to repeal the second amendment and disarm everybody but the police and military.
Bad idea.
blueridge3210
(1,401 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)has a bit of bigoted ring. (I don't think the OP is alluding to bias on the basis of sexual orientation, but there is a questionable alliteration not found in the more pedestrian "gun humper" and other penis metaphor.)
ileus
(15,396 posts)That's as far as I needed to read...it the writer doesn't understand basic SD platforms why bother reading any further.
sarisataka
(18,857 posts)June 30, 2014 12:03 PM
ORANGEVILLE, Pa. (AP) Police in Pennsylvania are recommending criminal charges against a gun show vendor who accidentally shot a woman while demonstrating a concealed carry wallet holster.
Bloomsburg police Officer Brad Sharrow said Monday he intends to file a reckless endangerment charge against 44-year-old Geoffrey Hawk, of Warminster. The Columbia County district attorney would have to approve the charge.
Police say 25-year-old Krista Gearhart was shot in the thigh on Saturday at the Eagle Arms Gun Show at the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds. She was treated at a hospital and released.
Sharrow says the vendor displayed gross negligence by failing to make sure the gun was unloaded.
Packerowner740
(676 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)A first ballot shoo-in for the Trying Too Hard Hall of fame...