Jonathan Spence’s Third Reith Lecture: Dreams, Paradoxes, and The Uses of History

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6/23/2008

Jonathan Spence’s Third Reith Lecture: Dreams, Paradoxes, and The Uses of History

By Charles W. Hayford

In the third lecture of the Chinese Vistas series, “American Dreams,” Jonathan Spence talked about American dreams of China and, more tantalizing, Chinese dreams of America. He sees a series of “paradoxes” from the American Revolution to the present which set Chinese and American dreams at odds.

In the question period, another paradox emerged, one between different uses of history. The lecture was broadcast from the Asia Society on Park Avenue in New York, where the initial questions came from Richard Holbrooke, President of the Asia Society and heavyweight diplomat, and Henry Kissinger, an even heavier weight (Spence had written about him, so it must have seemed strange). The questions asked if China had been more xenophobic than other countries, if industrialization would change Chinese mentalities, if China would be expansionist, and so on.

After responding to several questions, Spence started his answer to another by saying “I don’t know.” This was refreshing but perhaps it was also a tactful rebuke to the type of questions he was getting. Spence is not a present minded policy advisor, he is a public intellectual who writes about history to address questions of general meaning. Another Qing historian was recently asked what he told policy makers who sought his advice. He replied “as little as possible.” One of the few authentic lessons of history is that history does not offer “lessons,” much less predictions or tips on the horses, only stories of complications and confusion.

Of course, we might conclude, along with my Alan Baumler, my colleague at Frog in a Well, that Chinese History Sucks, but we could also just admit that historians are a feisty bunch and that they work in different ways.

http://thechinabeat.blogspot.com/2008/06/jonathan-spences-third-reith-lecture.html

Charles W. Hayford is Visiting Scholar, Department of History, Northwestern University, and Editor of the Journal of American-East Asian Relations.

Ahhh...the ye olde history lecture. Having read some Jonathan Spence in my Chinese history and religion courses, I found this lecture to be a very interesting challenge to the notion that there is one way to go about studying the history of complex subjects and then attempting to derive a meaningful analysis that is not self-serving "stamp-collecting," but rather intellectually productive and debate provoking. I think the best done history finds a healthy middle ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Spence

Also read: God's Chinese Son : The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom of Hong Xiuquan (Norton 1996) - for a spectacular history.

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1. Thanks for the post and the reference.

I just ordered God's Chinese Son, along with The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom by Reilly and The Taiping Revolutionary Movement by Jen Yu-wen.


I have only three works on Chinese history so this will double that segment of my library.

Looks like I'll have some reading ahead of me after the new year.

Are you familiar with either of the two latter works?

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2. Nope.

You're going to have Taipings coming out of your eyes, ears, and nostrils!

I could have suggested other works too; 3 on the same topic might be overwhelming!

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3. From the reviews it sounded like all three emphasize different aspects.

I sure hope so...