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SarahD

(1,255 posts)
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:43 AM Apr 24

Who gets to be called Mister President?

Yes, Trump does. Former presidents are on a very short list of people who get to retain their honorifics after they leave office. I notice a trend toward addressing every former official as Madam Secretary, Congressman, etc. A former US Senator gets to be called Senator Kerry, but not a former US Representative, so George Santos is just Mister Santos, or Mister Laughingstock, to be more accurate. Just a random thought from Little Miss Pedantic Language Person. By the way, different sources offer different guidance, so you will be disappointed if you seek consistency.

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unblock

(52,379 posts)
1. When addressing them, but not when referring to them
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:54 AM
Apr 24

If I somehow mean Obama, I'm addressing him as Mr president until he tells me otherwise. Bill clinton is on record as preferring just "Mr Clinton".

But it's not appropriate in the 3rd person. The media gets it wrong when they say things like "the president is now entering the courthouse." That would be the *former* president. Or better yet, the disgraced, lying, raping, defaming, fraudulent, confidential information stealing, failed businessman who briefly cheated his way into the Oval Office once.

spooky3

(34,488 posts)
2. Per the two leading etiquette experts, Miss Manners and Emily Post, this
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 11:59 AM
Apr 24

is incorrect. The original Miss Manners was also chief of protocol in the US govt in the 1960s. I don’t know who would be a more reliable authority on this.

The rationale is that, because there is only one President at a given time, s/he is the only one who should be addressed by that title. In contrast, there are multiple Senators, Governors, etc., at a given time, so there is no confusion or disrespect, if we also address a former office holder by that title.

One can find their statements about this online. For example:

https://www.uexpress.com/life/miss-manners/2003/12/02

Ocelot II

(115,894 posts)
3. When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 12:04 PM
Apr 24

the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.” This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as “Governor Tom Smith,” while you’d introduce an ex-governor as “former Governor Jim Bell.” https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states#:~:text=When%20addressing%20a%20former%20President,ex%2Dofficials%2C%20as%20well.

70sEraVet

(3,522 posts)
8. When they send Trump to prison,
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 03:14 PM
Apr 24

I DON'T CARE HOW THEY ADDRESS HIM!
They can sew a big Presidential Seal on his prison uniform!!
I'll be dancing in the streets!

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