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grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:39 PM May 2012

Anyone have a dog with lyme disease?

Our new rescue fella, Bean, tested positive for lyme disease today. I'm not really surprised by this. He was a stray found running the fields, and probably came into the shelter with a boatload of ticks on him.

The vet is sending out a second blood sample so a number value can be assigned. She said if Bean has a number 30 or greater he'll be put on a cycle of antibiotics. A successful treatment will cut his "number" in half. Then he'll be monitored from then on, as lyme disease isn't curable. However, it is manageable, she said. The vet also gave him a lyme disease vaccination, which seemed a little after the fact to me, but she said it's routine to give it even for those dogs with the disease.

Does anyone have experience with this? Frankly, I'm a confused. Exactly what does this mysterious "number" represent? How can giving Bean a vaccination for a disease he already has be helpful?

I can't say I've noticed any of the symptoms the vet asked about, with the one exception that he does seems slow and sore when he gets out of his crate in the morning....

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Anyone have a dog with lyme disease? (Original Post) grntuscarora May 2012 OP
Our Border Collie had it a few years ago. Stinky The Clown May 2012 #1
I don't know anything about the numbers but I have a client with lyme. Walk away May 2012 #2
My dog had it when she was about two years old. murielm99 May 2012 #3
My first Akita got it and so did one of my brothers TorchTheWitch May 2012 #4

Stinky The Clown

(67,838 posts)
1. Our Border Collie had it a few years ago.
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:29 PM
May 2012

She got a course of antibiotics and is now checked for it. She always checks fine so she's been called "effectively cured" . . . . which seems a weasel term to me, but there ya go.

I don't recall her getting a vaccine after the fact.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
2. I don't know anything about the numbers but I have a client with lyme.
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:34 PM
May 2012

He is a 12 year old Wheaton Terrier and he was diagnosed four years ago. They did the same antibiotic treatment on him and he improved greatly. However every six months to a year he has a recurrence and has to go back on the antibiotics. You can always tell when it's coming back because it's painful for him to climb the stairs he normally runs up.

The reason they vaccinated him is because he could be bitten again. I have a human friend who was infected twice. What a nightmare that is!

murielm99

(30,780 posts)
3. My dog had it when she was about two years old.
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:13 AM
May 2012

She did the round of antibiotics, and is fine. She is seven now. She gets checked by the vet, but is healthy and normal. She runs, jumps and plays like a puppy.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
4. My first Akita got it and so did one of my brothers
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:49 PM
May 2012

They both got it in the same week many years ago. That year was a particular epidemic. My brother still has occasional soreness issues, but he's learned how to cope. It rather sucks for him because he's very athletic... there's been a couple of instances over the years where he had to cancel out of one of his mountain climbing expeditions.

The dog got it bad. Right away there were very noticeable scary symptoms. I actually thought he'd had a stroke. He also got worse very quickly during the night while I waited for the vet appointment the next day, and he had such trouble walking I wasn't sure if I was going to have to get someone to help me carry him to the car, but he did make it on his own.

I'm guessing the number values represent how badly they're infected. I don't remember what his number value was, but he must have been very badly effected because the symptoms were so bad. He also had to do two rounds of the antibiotic to get rid of it since the first round wasn't enough, and he had to be switched to a stronger antibiotic than the first one that was prescribed.

Getting the lyme disease kept him stiff and a bit sore ever since. When he got older when normally arthritis would kick in anyway he was generally already dealing with arthritis-like symptoms, so when he did get arthritis when he got older it was a lot worse than it normally would have been and probably kicked in sooner than it normally would have. Walks became slow strolls though he wanted to go faster and farther... I had to slow him down a lot and make sure he didn't take us so far afield that I wasn't sure he could get back on his own steam. On grass he walked much much easier... you could see the change in his gait when he want from concrete to grass and vice versa, so I mapped out a route to take were we could walk on grass as much as possible.

If your Bean-baby doesn't have the really noticeable and horrible symptoms that my old dog did I would guess that he isn't infected that badly and his recovery and future management should be a lot better. My dog was already middle-aged when he got it, too, and I think that also makes a difference. I think a much younger dog would have an easier time of it.

They give the vaccine anyway because they may get bit again while they already have the disease and that would just add to how bad it was. The vaccine also doesn't last forever - I think they need it every year, and it's also not 100% foolproof. Regular ticks that you can see aren't the ones that carry the disease. The carrier ticks are what's known as the "deer tick" and they're so tiny the likelihood of finding one on the dog or even on yourself is pretty nil. Humans tend to get a huge bruise-like patch where the tick bit (my brother did but at the time he thought it was just a bruise), but not always, and dogs very rarely get this bruise-like patch, so looking for that is pretty useless. The only way to know is to look out for the symptoms and try to protect the dog as much as possible during the tick months. Always use a good tick and flea protection aid and try not to let the dog into high grassy areas, woods or anywhere that deer tend to be. We have deer all over the place in my area, so you really can't avoid places they might be... they wander across the highway and hang out in highly populated areas even where you'd never think a deer would want to be. My dog that got it was always on the sidewalk in a pretty populated area, so it baffled me how he got it in the first place, but the damn deer here are everywhere.


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