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beac

(9,992 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 06:45 PM Jul 2012

UPDATE!!----Flies like a humming bird, looks like a bee!

Last edited Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

UPDATE in separate post below
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Actually, I thought "ZOMG, it's a fuzzy flying lobster!" but most people apparently see the hummingbird-bee resemblance.

Turns out, it's a "hummingbird moth." I'd never seen one before and while it hung around long enough for me to go grab my camera, once I turned it on him he bum-rushed the lens and flew off. Subsequent attempts at digital capture resulted in same.

Luckily, the interwebs provided:


(and LOL that the person that took this picture also thought "lobster!" http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=novembergale&number=214 )

Apparently they are known for their love of phlox and it was indeed on such a flower that I spied him.

Definitely one of the craziest flying things I've ever seen in the garden.

And unusual creatures flitting about your place this year?
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UPDATE!!----Flies like a humming bird, looks like a bee! (Original Post) beac Jul 2012 OP
Unusual creatures flitting about my place this year? Denninmi Jul 2012 #1
LOL. beac Jul 2012 #14
You spied "him" on a phlox? Beartracks Jul 2012 #2
Actually, I guessed, but it turns out I was right! beac Jul 2012 #3
Been doing some more reading on these creatures... beac Jul 2012 #4
Great picture, and I wasn't aware of such a moth. dmosh42 Jul 2012 #5
I saw one a few evenings ago. Ednahilda Jul 2012 #6
I always associate moths with evening and night spottings too. beac Jul 2012 #15
I was in the house watching something on PBS Ednahilda Jul 2012 #17
I don't blame those bees for being furious. beac Jul 2012 #18
Well, now I'm stumped. Several years ago I was in Montreaux, Switzerland hedgehog Jul 2012 #7
Some other species of Sphinx moth. Denninmi Jul 2012 #8
It must have been a sphinx moth. It was about the size of a bumble bee, hedgehog Jul 2012 #9
Yours sounds tinier than the one I saw. beac Jul 2012 #13
+1 some Peeps think they are humming birds, but they are sphinx moths! n/t hue Jul 2012 #11
That's cool and definitely looks like a hummingbird-lobster GMO experiment gone bad. Gormy Cuss Jul 2012 #10
Yikes! I just about shrieked seeing it behind the safety of my computer screen. beac Jul 2012 #12
They taste like chicken. alfredo Jul 2012 #19
Beautiful! I knew about them. Would love to see one in person. Solly Mack Jul 2012 #16
Seen them in Arizona and I know they're here in Texas and they also spin tussah silk. marble falls Jul 2012 #20
Looks more like a flying shrimp to me. obxhead Jul 2012 #21
Shrimp is certainly a better match to its size. beac Jul 2012 #25
unusual creatures flitting about ? Plucketeer Jul 2012 #22
We only have ruby-throated hummingbirds here, but they beac Jul 2012 #23
UPDATE: beac Jul 2012 #24
wow! Skittles Jul 2012 #26
Another shot of her: beac Jul 2012 #27
she's a beaut! Skittles Jul 2012 #31
The "female of the species" may or may not be "more deadly than the male" beac Jul 2012 #32
LOL Skittles Jul 2012 #33
It's a hummingbird moth. They aren't that uncommon. It's just uncommon to see one. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #28
And I never have before, but now I am seeing one every day. beac Jul 2012 #29
Consider yourself lucky. They pollinate quite well. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #30
Flies like a humming bird, looks like a bee? Possibly Muhammad Ali? NeedleCast Jul 2012 #34
Yay, somebody got my veiled reference! beac Jul 2012 #35
The offspring are the great tomato hornworms. BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #36
Interesting... TuxedoKat Aug 2012 #37
We've had them here. Lugnut Aug 2012 #38

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
1. Unusual creatures flitting about my place this year?
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jul 2012

Thankfully, not yet, my brother-in-law and sister haven't done one of their semi-annual fly overs to my house since last Christmas. But it no doubt will be soon.



beac

(9,992 posts)
14. LOL.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jul 2012

My in-laws are due in November... it'l be a veritable harvest festival of passive-agressive flitting. And they are not nearly so interesting or fluffy as that moth.

beac

(9,992 posts)
3. Actually, I guessed, but it turns out I was right!
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.silkmoths.bizland.com/hthysbe.htm
Male pictured in second-to-last pic, female in last pic. Definitely saw a male.

beac

(9,992 posts)
4. Been doing some more reading on these creatures...
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jul 2012

Apparently the ability to "hover in midair while they feed.... has evolved only four times in nectar feeders: in hummingbirds, certain bats, hoverflies, and these sphingids[3] (an example of convergent evolution)."

Nature is so cool.

Ednahilda

(195 posts)
6. I saw one a few evenings ago.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jul 2012

I was outside after dark re-assembling a bee hive that a bear had knocked over. (First bear incursion into my bee yard in a decade. Guess I've been lucky.) Anyway, I had lights on all over the place and I saw several of these beautiful moths. Couldn't get a close-up look, but I knew what they were. All the cats were lined up by the screen door, very excited to see the moths, but not for the same reason I was

beac

(9,992 posts)
15. I always associate moths with evening and night spottings too.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jul 2012

Probably why it never occurred to me that this thing in my garden at mid-day could be a moth.

And "bear incursion" definitely wins the prize for most fearsome garden challenge!

Ednahilda

(195 posts)
17. I was in the house watching something on PBS
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:19 AM
Jul 2012

and I heard a crash. Thought maybe the cats had knocked something over, but no. Hubby was working outside, but he didn't hear anything. His powers of not hearing are legendary. Anyway, around 9:45 I brought some garden tools out to the greenhouse, about 60' from our house and noticed one of the hives was laying on the ground. There were bear claw marks on one of the frames of wax, so it was obvious what happened. Put on the suit (bees were especially angry) and set everything right. I'm giving them a few days before I open the hive again to check on the queen.

beac

(9,992 posts)
18. I don't blame those bees for being furious.
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:29 AM
Jul 2012

Hate it when someone tips my house over while I am sleeping!

Glad you heard it right away. Hope all's well when you go to check the queen.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
7. Well, now I'm stumped. Several years ago I was in Montreaux, Switzerland
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jul 2012

on the shore of Lake Geneva. I spent several minutes watching what I thought was the world's tiniest hummingbird feeding on the late Autumn flowers. i was all set to post a photo, only to find out that there are no hummingbirds in Europe. i knew that. I knew that right up until I spent 10 minutes watching one! So what did I see?

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
9. It must have been a sphinx moth. It was about the size of a bumble bee,
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:39 PM
Jul 2012

but it had the wide wings like a hummingbird.

beac

(9,992 posts)
13. Yours sounds tinier than the one I saw.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:05 PM
Jul 2012

Mine was easily 1.5" long.

I also found out they are cousins to the dreaded tomato hornworm.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
10. That's cool and definitely looks like a hummingbird-lobster GMO experiment gone bad.
Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jul 2012

The craziest looking bug that I've ever seen in my garden is a Jerusalem cricket.




They're about 1-1.5 " long. I shrieked the first time I saw one.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
22. unusual creatures flitting about ?
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jul 2012

How's about a California Valley Carpenter Bee? Ever seen a solid gold bumble bee? The Male Valley Carpenter Bee is a rich gold color. They'll hover around a favored spot for hours. I once observed a swarm of these golden beauties that were inhabiting a decaying walnut tree. Quite a sight! The females are solid black and supposedly lie in wait to "ambush" males for amorous reasons. We normally see the females all summer long - checking out the various blooming plants in the yard. The males - we see only very rarely, but I was witness to one just the other day.

We do see sphinks and hawk moths thru the evening hours (with 100 tomato plants, I'm sure we foster some Sphinks unwittingly. And hummingbirds! We have 3 species that spend their summers here and a couple that just pass thru. I'm currently going thru 8 quarts of hummingbird nectar every two days, so you can imagine the traffic!

Edit to add link: http://nathistoc.bio.uci.edu/hymenopt/Xylocopa.htm

beac

(9,992 posts)
23. We only have ruby-throated hummingbirds here, but they
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jul 2012

are a thirsty lot too. I refill the feeder about every other day. Sometimes a bold one will hover right next to me while I am watering the plants right under the feeder. Love that rare chance to be so close to such a tiny but powerful creature.

beac

(9,992 posts)
24. UPDATE:
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jul 2012

Guess whose mate came around for a visit today?:


And, luckily, not so camera-shy as her male counterpart!

I can tell it was a female b/c it it was much less colorful than the previous visitor. Amazing how she almost looks wingless b/c the wings are moving so fast.


General garden shot just for fun:

beac

(9,992 posts)
27. Another shot of her:
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:02 AM
Jul 2012


In this one you can see she's uncurled her proboscis and is ready to feed on those lantana blooms.

beac

(9,992 posts)
32. The "female of the species" may or may not be "more deadly than the male"
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:36 PM
Jul 2012

but she is certainly more amenable to being photographed.

When Mr. Hummingbirdmoth came back around today he gave me the same Sean Penn'esque treatment as last time.

I was actually afraid he might have stunned himself b/c he head-butted the camera so hard.

Fortunately, he displayed no ill effects from his anti-paparazzi antics and zoomed off into the woods with the same speed as his avian "cousins."

Skittles

(153,261 posts)
33. LOL
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jul 2012

OMG I hope one day to see one of those things - I have heard of them but never seen one. I last tangoed with a real hummingbird when it flew into a huge, tall garage on a 105 degree day - my boyfriend and I had to to use a broom and rake to guide the little guy back outside - it's amazing the flying ability they have - sounds like your guests have the same abilities!

beac

(9,992 posts)
29. And I never have before, but now I am seeing one every day.
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jul 2012

Today, the male was back. They seem to show up about the same time every day and only one at a time, so maybe my yard is now on their regular nectaring schedule.

I do have several Phlox and Lantana growing, which I gather are among their favorites. And we have some wild phlox growing around the property too.

beac

(9,992 posts)
35. Yay, somebody got my veiled reference!
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jul 2012


("Flies" for "Floats" was easy, but I couldn't come up with an "s" verb to replace "stings"... and, of course, I replaced butterfly w/hummingbird.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
37. Interesting...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:30 PM
Aug 2012

I have phlox just starting to bloom right now, I'll keep a look out for these -- thanks.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
38. We've had them here.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:08 AM
Aug 2012

I always hang a plant of Supertunias on the front porch and the hummingbirds love them. The front landscaping was redone a few weeks ago and the designer chose two dwarf butterfly bushes in the layout. Since then we've had a bunch of bees and butterflies enjoying the plants but this cool little bug started joining them. I'd never seen them before but they look like miniature hummingbirds.

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