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pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:38 AM Sep 2014

Anyone who's had DNA testing done...

Have you ever had, or considered having, a second test done by a different company?

I guess for purposes of more definite confirmation...


As I posted in a thread below, I recently had an Ancestry.com test done and got some surprising results.

What I've been thinking of for the past couple of days is maybe now doing one from another place. Like 23andMe.

My only problem with doing that is thinking, well, what if the results don't match the Ancestry.com results... I'd like to clear up any lingering mysteries, but I don't want to make even more with a conflicting result.

Has anyone ever done multiple genealogical DNA tests and gotten consistent results?

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Anyone who's had DNA testing done... (Original Post) pipi_k Sep 2014 OP
I did DNA testing with Genebase several years ago Sancho Sep 2014 #1
Well, no need, really... pipi_k Sep 2014 #2
Wow...One of your statements really intrigues me. whathehell Sep 2014 #3
Not the exact pipi_k Sep 2014 #4
Thanks for the links.. whathehell Sep 2014 #5
I've tested with Ancestry as well as 23and Me. NOLALady Oct 2014 #6
Don't know much pipi_k Oct 2014 #7
"I'm just sort of curious. " mitch96 Oct 2017 #27
FYI NOLALady Oct 2014 #8
I was reading over the terms and had a question. CBHagman Oct 2014 #9
This link should help. NOLALady Oct 2014 #10
I've been a member pipi_k Oct 2014 #11
Oh rats pipi_k Oct 2014 #12
I predict sales very soon. NOLALady Oct 2014 #14
It's reduced to $89 through 10/31 on Ancestry, a little bit of savings. n/t seaglass Oct 2014 #15
Thanks! n/t Sylvere Oct 2017 #24
Not sure if you noticed my post was from 3 years ago? n/t seaglass Oct 2017 #25
Sorry - new here. Sylvere Oct 2017 #28
No problem, just didn't want you to get too excited about a sale that may no longer exist. n/t seaglass Oct 2017 #29
Skip Gates (of Finding Your Roots and the Obama Beer Summit) says that there are many kinds of MADem Oct 2014 #13
Ancestry DNA's price is reduced for Cyber Monday. CBHagman Nov 2014 #16
I had mine done by Ancestry. Considering 23 and me. Fla Dem Apr 2017 #17
I did mine with Familytreedna and matched up with all the ones I expected to match with OnDoutside Apr 2017 #18
Part of the "Trace" data is due to people migrating to other areas. Thor_MN May 2017 #19
On further research, my father's grandmother was substantially Finnish. Thor_MN Jul 2017 #22
I just had the "Big Y" done on FTDNA CanonRay May 2017 #20
Just got my results back TuxedoKat Jun 2017 #21
Spouse's GR was adopted, so we got it done through Ancestry Sylvere Oct 2017 #23
Yes, 23andme does but if you've done the DNA test at Ancestry... WePurrsevere Oct 2017 #30
You can download raw data from Ancestry and transfer to FTDNA for free Spider Jerusalem Nov 2017 #32
I used the National Geographic Genome project... HopeAgain Oct 2017 #26
Just got the results CountAllVotes Oct 2017 #31
Got an Ancestry test kit for Xmas. Very excited to get GreenPartyVoter Dec 2017 #33

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
1. I did DNA testing with Genebase several years ago
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:58 AM
Sep 2014

along with several members of the family.

It'a been interesting, but I don't see the need to go to another company if the system of reporting is useful to you.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
2. Well, no need, really...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:06 AM
Sep 2014

I'm just sort of curious.

Like with one part, about 13% that's supposedly "trace" ancestry. I'm just wondering if another company would be able to hone in better on that.

Although I also did get to wondering if these places all send their samples to the same lab, which wouldn't be much help either.


another thing I found out, which only adds more mystery to the whole thing...

I discovered that, just like multiple kids in a family can inherit genes for different things, like blue eyes or brown eyes (everyone in my nuclear family had/has dark hair and eyes except for me), the same thing can happen for ethnic DNA as well. That is, one child could get DNA matchup for, say, Scandinavia while another kid...same parents...might get none. Or so little it might not even count.

I'll try to find where I read that and post it.

And so that's why I'm wondering about different results from different places. Or different results for siblings, even.


whathehell

(29,067 posts)
3. Wow...One of your statements really intrigues me.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:31 AM
Sep 2014

"That is, one child could get DNA matchup for, say, Scandinavia while another kid...same parents...might get none. Or so little it might not even count. I'll try to find where I read that and post it".

Yes, please do try and find that, because appearances aside e.g. one child light, one dark , I thought the actual DNA matchup would be the same.

Thanks.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
4. Not the exact
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:01 PM
Sep 2014

site, which I can't find at the moment, but close enough to explain how and why that could happen:

http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/03/05/understanding-patterns-of-inheirtance-where-did-my-dna-come-from-and-why-it-matters/



and another one:

http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5479/~/why-are-my-ancestrydna-ethnicity-results-different-than-i-expected%3F


So I guess I may have ended up answering my own question...instead of doing a second test on myself, I should probably have my youngest full-blooded sister do a test. If there's any Native American DNA, it would likely be in her, as she most closely matches the physical profile. Very thick, very straight dark hair and eyes, which are sort of almond shaped. My middle sister's hair is quite coarse and kinky, and mine is babyfine, but almost ridiculously reactive to humidity, going from mildly wavy to a curly mess when it's damp out.

Also, I'm not as dark as the rest of the family.



NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
6. I've tested with Ancestry as well as 23and Me.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:45 AM
Oct 2014

I also uploaded our results to ftDNA.

All tests show basically the same ethnicity with minor differences. For instance, my dad tests about 12% Jewish DNA with 23andMe, while predictably me and my sister have 5%.
My Dad shows 13% Jewish DNA with Ancestry, but I show 2%.

Our Native DNA is not shown with Ancestry, but it shows with 23andMe.

23andMe will give you your Haplogroups if someone is interested. They also have graphs that show where your DNA match with your DNA cousins.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
7. Don't know much
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 11:26 AM
Oct 2014

about Haplogroups, but have looked it up and it sounds fascinating!

Will be doing more reading, maybe even consider doing one of those tests.



mitch96

(13,895 posts)
27. "I'm just sort of curious. "
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:06 PM
Oct 2017

Heck, if you have the money and it will ease your mind, go for it...

I had mine done knowing both parents came from eastern Europe/western Russia..
DNA confirmed what my folks said.. honkey.. 99/44 one hundredth percent pure...
with a bit of this and that thrown in...
m

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
9. I was reading over the terms and had a question.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 04:23 PM
Oct 2014

I've never subscribed to Ancestry and got to the unsubscribe part in the terms. Does that mean that taking the Ancestry DNA test automatically kicks one into the subscriber mode and that they keep charging you until you formally opt out? I seem to remember hearing that was an issue but I thought the DNA test was a thing apart. Can you shed some light on this?

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
10. This link should help.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:04 PM
Oct 2014

"While there is no monthly subscription to AncestryDNA, an Ancestry.com membership can help enhance your experience by taking advantage of additional benefits that the combined services offer together. If you’re already a subscriber, you’ll automatically have access to these benefits with your AncestryDNA test. And, if you’re not, you can choose to add a subscription when you purchase the test and save!"

See more at: http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/11/01/ancestrydna-great-alone-even-better-with-an-ancestry-com-subscription/#sthash.p9mOYjEt.dpuf

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
11. I've been a member
Tue Oct 21, 2014, 10:33 AM
Oct 2014

in the past, but am not currently. Just every few years I'll activate my membership to see what new things I can discover.

Mr Pipi has never been a member.

We both were able to do the test and access the results with no problem.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
14. I predict sales very soon.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 08:53 PM
Oct 2014

The testing companies sometimes try to capitalize on the Holiday Family gatherings.

Half price sales could start in a few weeks.

ftDNA currently has an offer that allows you to upload your testing results free (if you recommend 4 others) or $39 if you choose to buy.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Skip Gates (of Finding Your Roots and the Obama Beer Summit) says that there are many kinds of
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 01:21 PM
Oct 2014

tests to run--they will give differing results, depending on if you are focusing on the father's line or the mother's line. It's not the company, it is what the test emphasizes and how many markers they look for. Also, sometimes it is best to have a male relative take the test because that will reveal more information.



http://www.pbs.org/wnet/finding-your-roots/resources/

https://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspx

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
16. Ancestry DNA's price is reduced for Cyber Monday.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 12:47 PM
Nov 2014

Have a look at their website:

[url]http://dna.ancestry.com/[/url]

Disclaimer: I am in no way connected with Ancestry.com.

Fla Dem

(23,654 posts)
17. I had mine done by Ancestry. Considering 23 and me.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:24 AM
Apr 2017

for just the reasons you cite. Comparing results.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
18. I did mine with Familytreedna and matched up with all the ones I expected to match with
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 05:20 PM
Apr 2017

and then some ones I had not known of.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
19. Part of the "Trace" data is due to people migrating to other areas.
Fri May 5, 2017, 06:50 PM
May 2017

Every single ancestor of mine moved to the US from Norway and Sweden. No other countries, yet my results showed "trace" amounts from Ireland, Great Britain, France and Finland/NW Russia. Undoubtedly, in the past, beyond records, there was some migration to/from Norway and Sweden. A Viking (my ancestors that I know of were all farmers) could have left a little something behind on a raid on the British Isles, leaving "Scandinavian" genes in those areas. So now, the local mix of genes includes "Scandinavian" genes and shows up as trace ancestry from that area. Finns/NW Russians undoubtedly repopulated the Scandinavian peninsula after the last Ice Age.
Any area of the world is going to have some drift from other areas, there are no "pure blooded" populations. In my opinion "trace" DNA results are most likely evidence of ancient migrations and not a "surprize" parenting in the recent past. To be sure those happen, but it is far more likely that "trace" DNA results are from ancient population drift.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
22. On further research, my father's grandmother was substantially Finnish.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 09:04 PM
Jul 2017

My test said 9% Finland/NW Russia, my father did the test and came up 18% Finland/NW Russia. Pushing back further on his side, I have started hitting Finnish names.

The guy who sits next to me at work starting doing his tree after hearing about my work and I offered to help, since I have a World Explorer subscription to Ancestry.com. I just tonight found that his mother's family goes into Stjordahl, Norway, whre my dad's mother's family is from. I'm starting to hit family trees that I recognize, there's a chance that the guy I sit next at work is my distant cousin...

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
20. I just had the "Big Y" done on FTDNA
Mon May 15, 2017, 02:17 PM
May 2017

after having Ancestry. Found out my haplogroup is mainly Jewish origins. My father was full blooded Sicilian.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
21. Just got my results back
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 08:39 AM
Jun 2017

from Ancestry but going to retest with 23andMe because my sister used 23andMe and seemed to get a more thorough/detailed analysis. We basically had the same info but my sister's showed more detailed info as to what countries and areas some of the various ethnicities came from and some that didn't even show up on mine with Ancestry. I don't if that's because I didn't inherit some of that particular DNA and my sister did, or the percentage was so low it didn't show up on their test but would on a 23andMe test. 23andMe also checks for Neanderthal DNA too, or so I've heard. I also bought 23andMe tests for my mom and brother so I can compare my mom's with ours so we can discern which of some ethnicities came from Mom and which from Dad, as there were some definite surprises, ethnicity-wise!

 

Sylvere

(19 posts)
23. Spouse's GR was adopted, so we got it done through Ancestry
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:24 AM
Oct 2017

So we could match hits to the DNA

We got one hit from a 6th cousin, but no more.

Does 23andMe put you in touch with matches?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
30. Yes, 23andme does but if you've done the DNA test at Ancestry...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:41 PM
Oct 2017

You can download the raw data and upload it to some other sites that match for a very low cost or free. You can Upload it to My Heritage, GED match and Family Tree just to name a few. Family Tree is to get matches will cost $20.

I was adopted in 1961 and using Ancestry, 23 and me, Heritage, Family Tree and others, as well as doing some detective work and following hints that Ancestry gives, I have had it as close as a first cousin once removed on both sides and using some detective work I am now a 95 percent sure that I found both of my birth parents. Sadly both of them are deceased.

I'd also suggest doing a DNA test at one other possibly 2 other testing companies. If you are interested google Genes For Good. Michigan University is doing a huge genetic study and the raw data that you get from the sample you give them is yours to download once processed and use as you want to. The negative with them is you do have to answer a bunch of questions before you get the kit and they're taking a very long time to process it. I rather liked it I might be contributing to finding a cause or possibly a cure for things like multiple sclerosis which I have.

Also be patient. Sometimes it takes time, especially if the person who is adopted is older. I've found that the list of matches grows over time and as more people take the tests.

Oh and welcome to DU.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
32. You can download raw data from Ancestry and transfer to FTDNA for free
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 04:39 AM
Nov 2017

you can also upload raw data from Ancestry to gedmatch.com where you may get more matches from other people who've uploaded their data.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
26. I used the National Geographic Genome project...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:58 PM
Oct 2017

Because they keep updating their data with the more information they get from participants. The more participants they get, the more accurate they can be. It's actually part of a study, not a gimmick so the 23andMe people can get rich.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
31. Just got the results
Sun Oct 15, 2017, 11:06 AM
Oct 2017

Seems the man that I had pegged to be my grandfather was the right person.

My mother was adopted in 1925 and we never knew who she was. Then came geneaology!

The DNA showed my #1 match to be the nephew of Mother's father.

Seems this family she was from had a great deal of political clout in the State of Texas where they were in charge of things so to speak.

I contacted this #1 hit and the guy was in major denial and said that ancestry.com is "a big rip-off". Never heard from him again. Thanks for nothing Mr. Cousin ...

Its not the first time I've been turned away in life and I'm sure it won't be the last time either.

However, it is good to know that all of the work I've been doing for 20 years has now been validated so to speak! Time to move on in life dare I suggest as Mission Accomplished so to speak!



GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
33. Got an Ancestry test kit for Xmas. Very excited to get
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:59 PM
Dec 2017

my results. Going to be a long two months!

Will definitely look into having my data uploaded elsewhere. Will try to talk little bro into getting tested, but doubt he will do it.

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