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Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 04:25 AM Dec 2022

Trans rights bill bitterly divides Spanish left

A transgender rights bill to be voted on this week has sparked bitter divisions within Spain's ruling left-wing coalition, pitting its powerful feminist lobby against LGBTQ equality campaigners.

The draft bill effectively simplifies the procedure for changing gender on a person's national identity card, allowing them to request the change based on a simple statement.

The law for the "genuine equality of trans people and for the guarantee of LGBTI rights" -- which will be put to a vote on Thursday -- is one of the flagship projects of the equality ministry which is held by Podemos, the radical left-wing junior partner in Spain's Socialist-led coalition.

If approved, the bill will move to the Senate and if left unchanged, as expected, will become law within weeks.

It would make Spain one of the few countries in the world to allow transgender people to change their status with a simple declaration.

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Trans rights bill bitterly divides Spanish left (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 OP
I'm a feminist! Lunabell Dec 2022 #1
It is just another example of how minorities eat each other. Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 #2
I don't live in spain so I don't know how it is there LostOne4Ever Dec 2022 #4
Anti-trans sentiment is very popular among left-wing people in Europe Dalton555 Dec 2022 #3

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
4. I don't live in spain so I don't know how it is there
Mon Dec 26, 2022, 10:52 PM
Dec 2022

But it has been my experience that media loves to portray there being a divide between feminists and trans people when there is none.

In actuality, at least in the states, it is just the Trans exclusionary radical fake feminists (or as they as they like to call themselves-gender critical) pretending to be real feminists.

Dalton555

(1,474 posts)
3. Anti-trans sentiment is very popular among left-wing people in Europe
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:44 PM
Dec 2022

It's becoming one of the main issues between North America and Europe. European leftists have had a Jacobin history for a long time, kind of like Glenn Greenwald, and they believe that it is a mistake to address racism or anti-LGBT sentiment because they believe that once equal income is legislated, all social problems will disappear.

Therefore, left leaning Europeans frequently attack the idea of gay rights or same-sex marriage or anything having to do with LGBTQ people.

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