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NORTH CAROLINA: Court Upholds Law Permitting Magistrates To Refuse To Issue Marriage Licenses
A federal judge has upheld a North Carolina law that allows magistrates to refuse to marry same-sex couples by citing religious beliefs.
The judge in Asheville dismissed a lawsuit filed by three couples, two gay and one interracial. The judge ruled that the couples lacked legal standing as taxpayers to sue and lacked evidence showing they were harmed directly by the law taking effect in June 2015. Still, U.S. District Judge Max Cogburn wrote there is potential someone could suffer real harm because of the law.
The plaintiffs lawyers filed notice Wednesday that theyll appeal the ruling to the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. North Carolina is one of only two states with such religious-objection laws that are being enforced. About 5 percent of North Carolinas magistrates have filed recusal notices.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)To make NC a blue state, even having the convention there. It seems NC is determined to stay hard dixie.
niyad
(112,435 posts)note to magistrates, judges, clerks, etc: if your "sincerely held religious beliefs" are sooooo sincere, get a job in a church.
MY sincerely held beliefs do not approve of MY tax money going to support hate-filled, ignorant, whining, asshole bigots.
sinkingfeeling
(51,279 posts)of the South. Big employers at Research Triangle Park had 10s of thousands of diverse employees, great universities were producing open-minded citizens, and Governor Hunt was stressing progress. I lived and worked in Raleigh from 1979 thru 1983. What the hell happened?
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Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)A lady walked into her business, asked her where she was from and said to her, "sorry, I can't do business with you."
They moved to the Pacific Northwest and they love it here.
atreides1
(16,046 posts)Read this little bit of NC history after the Civil War.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nchist-civilwar/5468
mnhtnbb
(31,319 posts)Republicans took over the Legislature--gerrymandered districts--and in 2012 McCrory (who was known as a moderate Mayor of Charlotte)
won the Governor's office. He then proceeded to turn hard right--supported by all the right wing bigots in the Legislature--and for the first
time in over 100 years Republicans controlled the State of NC.
Democrats HAVE to vote in every election: Republicans do.
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)until you can prove that their violation is harmful to Y O U.
relayerbob
(6,510 posts)It wasn't "upheld". They screwed up the case. Big difference. By saying that "there is potential someone could suffer real harm because of the law. ", the judge left the door open for future cases. Hopefully, someone with better merits and legal advice will step up and take down that mess of a law.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)FreeState
(10,553 posts)The error was the AP's.
From the OPs link:
"NOTE: An earlier report by the AP has been criticized as mischaracterizing the ruling. See below."
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,788 posts)FreeState
(10,553 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)My sister in law already got married to her wife AND they have a little girl! Hahaha!!
But seriously, we're going to flood the polls with blue this season. We can't let NC go any further.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)with cases in KY and AL last Year??????
dsc
(52,130 posts)in NC they have had others giving out the licences. This is a related but different issue.
dsc
(52,130 posts)Since gay couples can get married the courts are saying that there is no harm for us to sue over. I think what needs to happen is that a gay person in a county that is served entirely by magistrates who refuse (there is one of those) needs to sue over the fact they can't use a magistrate for other purposes.