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Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:02 PM

Petition started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT

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A counter campaign has been started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT, after the ‘drop the T’ campaign was met with heavy criticism.
The Change.org petition, which has been signed by a thousand people, calls for ‘T’ to be removed from ‘LGBT’.

It claims to have been created by a group of gay, bisexual and lesbian women who want trans people to be “disassociated” with the term LGBT.



The petition goes on to note the apparent “vilification and harassment of women and gay men/lesbian individuals who openly express disagreement with the trans ideology.”

It also notes comments made by feminist author Germaine Greer, who recently said trans women are “can’t be women”, and attacks the trans community and its allies for “re-writing gay and lesbian history,” after complaints that Roland Emmerich’s film ‘Stonewall’ erased gender non-conforming people of colour from its telling of the Stonewall riots.

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]More at link.

A link to the petition to KEEP THE T IN LGBT!!![/font]

https://www.change.org/p/human-rights-campaign-glaad-lambda-legal-the-advocate-out-magazine-huffpost-gay-voices-lgbtq-community-we-stand-with-trans-people-reject-drop-the-t

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Reply Petition started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT (Original post)
LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 OP
Android3.14 Nov 2015 #1
LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #2
Android3.14 Nov 2015 #3
LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #4
Android3.14 Nov 2015 #7
enlightenment Nov 2015 #6
Old Union Guy Nov 2015 #5
icymist Nov 2015 #10
Boomer Nov 2015 #8
icymist Nov 2015 #9
LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #11
nomorenomore08 Nov 2015 #12

Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:09 PM

1. What is the the "trans ideology"?

 

What a bizarre self destructive tactic for this group of LGB (but not trans?) folks.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:11 PM

2. Just another way to be hateful against transpeople nt

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:15 PM

3. But what is it?

 

I figured it's hateful, but we can only respond effectively to hateful behavior if we know what we are talking about.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:23 PM

4. It is anything that is advocating for trans rights and acceptance

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]It is a right wing Buzz word along the lines of the "gay agenda." It has no real meaning but to sound ominous and scare people.

I could link to the other petition...but I won't. If you check the article out it has a link to that PoS there. You can see how they are using the term there.[/font]

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:39 PM

7. Thanks for the lead. Found it.

 

The petition does seem counter productive.

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:33 PM

6. It's a slimy pool you're asking to wade into.

Start with understanding (if that is possible) TERFs - it's really part and parcel of the same thing.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminism

The same sort of irrationality exists on the male side, too, with (according to my trans* son) a long and troubled history of inclusion. A recent article with some helpful explanations, here:

http://planettransgender.com/clearing-air-mississippi-gulf-coast-rainbow-center-jeff-whites-departure/

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Response to Android3.14 (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:26 PM

5. The trans ideology near as I can make out ...

 

... something about being "people too"?

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Response to Old Union Guy (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:06 PM

10. And human.

With a soul and everything!

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:40 PM

8. Who exactly is in charge of the acronym?

I get confused as to who decides these things. Is there some central registry where the politically correct list of acronyms is determined? Do we get to vote on it or is this some kind of committee decision?

More and more I like just being Queer. It's vague yet inclusive and easy to remember.

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:04 PM

9. As soon as I saw HERO get voted down I knew this would be next.

After that, if it gets that far, they'll go after the B. TERFs and their allies were doing the same thing at the '93 MOW plannings in the PNW. Nothing like creating a loud voice and then silencing it's parts because of hatred.

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:52 AM

11. And the petition has already surpassed the other one :D

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]From a transally to all the DU'ers (and those in the LGBT group in particular) who signed the Keep the T petition:



Thank you!!!

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Response to LostOne4Ever (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:44 AM

12. It's almost like trans folks are some embarrassing relative that they're trying to keep unseen

and unheard, lest the whole family be stigmatized. Someone should tell them that this will never work, because most people who despise transgender folks feel similarly about LGB's - even if they're not as open about it nowadays.

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