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LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:02 PM Nov 2015

Petition started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT

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A counter campaign has been started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT, after the ‘drop the T’ campaign was met with heavy criticism.
The Change.org petition, which has been signed by a thousand people, calls for ‘T’ to be removed from ‘LGBT’.

It claims to have been created by a group of gay, bisexual and lesbian women who want trans people to be “disassociated” with the term LGBT.



The petition goes on to note the apparent “vilification and harassment of women and gay men/lesbian individuals who openly express disagreement with the trans ideology.”

It also notes comments made by feminist author Germaine Greer, who recently said trans women are “can’t be women”, and attacks the trans community and its allies for “re-writing gay and lesbian history,” after complaints that Roland Emmerich’s film ‘Stonewall’ erased gender non-conforming people of colour from its telling of the Stonewall riots.

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A link to the petition to KEEP THE T IN LGBT!!![/font]

https://www.change.org/p/human-rights-campaign-glaad-lambda-legal-the-advocate-out-magazine-huffpost-gay-voices-lgbtq-community-we-stand-with-trans-people-reject-drop-the-t

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Petition started to ‘keep the T’ in LGBT (Original Post) LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 OP
What is the the "trans ideology"? Android3.14 Nov 2015 #1
Just another way to be hateful against transpeople nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #2
But what is it? Android3.14 Nov 2015 #3
It is anything that is advocating for trans rights and acceptance LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #4
Thanks for the lead. Found it. Android3.14 Nov 2015 #7
It's a slimy pool you're asking to wade into. enlightenment Nov 2015 #6
The trans ideology near as I can make out ... Old Union Guy Nov 2015 #5
And human. icymist Nov 2015 #10
Who exactly is in charge of the acronym? Boomer Nov 2015 #8
As soon as I saw HERO get voted down I knew this would be next. icymist Nov 2015 #9
And the petition has already surpassed the other one :D LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #11
It's almost like trans folks are some embarrassing relative that they're trying to keep unseen nomorenomore08 Nov 2015 #12
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
1. What is the the "trans ideology"?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

What a bizarre self destructive tactic for this group of LGB (but not trans?) folks.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
3. But what is it?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:15 PM
Nov 2015

I figured it's hateful, but we can only respond effectively to hateful behavior if we know what we are talking about.

LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
4. It is anything that is advocating for trans rights and acceptance
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:23 PM
Nov 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]It is a right wing Buzz word along the lines of the "gay agenda." It has no real meaning but to sound ominous and scare people.

I could link to the other petition...but I won't. If you check the article out it has a link to that PoS there. You can see how they are using the term there.[/font]

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
6. It's a slimy pool you're asking to wade into.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:33 PM
Nov 2015

Start with understanding (if that is possible) TERFs - it's really part and parcel of the same thing.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Trans-exclusionary_radical_feminism

The same sort of irrationality exists on the male side, too, with (according to my trans* son) a long and troubled history of inclusion. A recent article with some helpful explanations, here:

http://planettransgender.com/clearing-air-mississippi-gulf-coast-rainbow-center-jeff-whites-departure/

Boomer

(4,167 posts)
8. Who exactly is in charge of the acronym?
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:40 PM
Nov 2015

I get confused as to who decides these things. Is there some central registry where the politically correct list of acronyms is determined? Do we get to vote on it or is this some kind of committee decision?

More and more I like just being Queer. It's vague yet inclusive and easy to remember.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
9. As soon as I saw HERO get voted down I knew this would be next.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:04 PM
Nov 2015

After that, if it gets that far, they'll go after the B. TERFs and their allies were doing the same thing at the '93 MOW plannings in the PNW. Nothing like creating a loud voice and then silencing it's parts because of hatred.

LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
11. And the petition has already surpassed the other one :D
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 12:52 AM
Nov 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]From a transally to all the DU'ers (and those in the LGBT group in particular) who signed the Keep the T petition:



Thank you!!!

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nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
12. It's almost like trans folks are some embarrassing relative that they're trying to keep unseen
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:44 AM
Nov 2015

and unheard, lest the whole family be stigmatized. Someone should tell them that this will never work, because most people who despise transgender folks feel similarly about LGB's - even if they're not as open about it nowadays.

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