LGBT
Related: About this forumSo now it seems to be okay to call a gay man by a feminine name on DU.
Glen Greenwalds new name seems to be "Gigi" and also in the same thread the same poster refers to him as a "bugger".
Please folks, talk me down here.
QC
(26,371 posts)of the attacks on people like Greenwald, Dan Choi, and Ellen Sturtz around here.
This person is just being more honest about it.
Also the way they sneer at his living in Brazil, what with DOMA and all.
QC
(26,371 posts)why he lives in Brazil.
They post that attack over and over because it is a way to be homophobic without being so overtly hateful as to risk a ban.
And, of course, under the new system, anything is acceptable if it gets the stamp of approval from three random people who might be trolls straight from Freak Republic themselves.
So, to answer Puglover's question, it is okay to call gay men by women's names now on DU. Perfectly OK.
Gotta love those community standards!
William769
(55,148 posts)Many on DU have them covered when it comes to this topic.
QC
(26,371 posts)Some could give the freepers a run for the money.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)They hate Greenwald. This is from 2011, conspiracy theory about DU's gay people and Greenwald, stood in GD for days until Earl ppr'd the OP.
"I have found out that Greenwald is Gay, and I know from a lot of posts here at DU that many of the LGBT community here at DU are disenchanted with Obama. I find that interesting, because all of the LGBT community outside of DU strongly - and I mean STRONGLY - support him! I have many friends and co-workers who are LGB ( I had two friends who were T in the past, but we have lost touch as happens so often with friends) and they are appalled at Greenwalds portrayals of Obamas policies...."
Much more and many comments at the link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100297376
Puglover
(16,380 posts)I will read it tomorrow. Frankly what passes around here is disgusting. I honestly don't believe it.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Had anti-gay remarks on that thread.
Cha
(297,935 posts)I write out the whole name.
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I'm not referring to you.
Thought you meant you didn't think I was right. We're good.
Cha
(297,935 posts)I don't think it's right.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)I appreciate that.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)noticed it was in the 'Thanks DU Straight People' thread the other day and it was why I did not add a comment. Very shitty behavior. Deeply bigoted bullshit.
William769
(55,148 posts)Welcome to the New and improved DU!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)A bugger? I don't get it but I may be dum. GiGi is not his name.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)Pab Sungenis
(9,612 posts)God, I love that woman! She's so incredibly smart.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3129226
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
This person has repeatedly referred to Glen Greenwald as "GiGi" -- using a feminine name to refer to a gay man. I know that many people here do not like Glenn Greenwald, but we should not be referring to him in a way that could be construed as a slur on his sexual orientation. It makes our LGBT members feel unwelcome. Thank you for your time.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jun 30, 2013, 08:40 AM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Another fake liberal using homophobic slurs to bash someone who doesn't toe their political line 100%. Refugee from the BOG? Or a HOF'er feeling the need to just bash another man? I don't care. I'm sick of it. It makes DU suck.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: I wondered who GiGi was and what the hell this alert was about until I read the explanation. The alerter is correct.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Read "no explanation given" as "I'm afraid to justify my decision" when it comes to letting stuff stand.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)homophobic. However this posters comments are crystal clear. Not one homophobic slur but 2 in one post.
Yes, "bugger" is a colloquial term for sodomy and that is not the most common meaning of the word. And had it been used alone I may have believed that it was innocuous. However coupled with the gleeful and repetitive "Gigi" it's a pretty logical leap to see what that poster is all about.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)You'd lose that bet.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3129196
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
This person has repeatedly referred to Glen Greenwald as "GiGi" -- using a feminine name to refer to a gay man. I know that many people here do not like Glenn Greenwald, but we should not be referring to him in a way that could be construed as a slur on his sexual orientation. It makes our LGBT members feel unwelcome. Thank you for your time.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:11 AM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I had no idea Greenwald is a gay man, and suspect many other readers do not, thus the term used has no negative meaning.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: while I somewhat agree with the alerter's complaint, I would prefer to see it handled directly by pointing it out to the poster, rather than anonymously tattling on them with an alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is crap. GiGi would be used if he was straight, too. Using the LGBT community to shut down discussion is a shitty tactic.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)"Gigi" stand for in your world?
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)Gigi. Leslie Caron. Fun old film. SHE was a cute character. Glen Greenwald is a gay man. HIS name isn't Gigi. It's Greenwald. GG would be perfectly fine.
When I was a kid I was called a "fem" among many other gay slurs. It hurt. Alot. So when I see shite like this happening on DU I will speak out about it.
monmouth3
(3,871 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)Although I haven't alerted of these posts it looks like juries are 86ing some of them. Frankly however it should be ALL of them.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I was 'juror #2' on the following:
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
At Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Yep. You've got to have FAITH to believe anything GiGi says these days. http://www.democraticundergroun
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/? com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)
ALERTER'S COMMENTS:
Referring to a gay man by a woman's name seems more than a bit homophobic, esp. when the person doing it also refers to that same gay man as a "bugger" a few posts later. This is bigoted hate speech.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jun 30, 2013, 03:25 PM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Hate speech of *ANY* kind should have no place on this forum. Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Although this remark does not prove homophobia it is a bit inappropriate. A better choice would have been simply writing G.G. thereby closing the door to an alert. I vote this one ok. The 'bugger" post, however, should be separately considered for crossing the insensitivity line. Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Thank you very much...
I consider this ample proof that homophobes are prevalent on DU, and the jury system is a joke, because homophobes and misogynists are seldom rebuked.
FreeState
(10,585 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)or if they just don't care...
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)like PBO or HRC. If his middle name was Glenn John Greenwald, I would probably go GJG. But if people think I mean "gigi", then perhaps I will avoid that. Heaven knows I can think of a thousand names to call that man that have nothign to do with his sexuality.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)There is a poster that is calling him "Gigi" and also a "nasty little bugger" Of course GG would be fine.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)What is wrong with that? My daughter's given name is Allison. Her nickname is Alli. Everyone is satisified with that. I sometimes call her AL myself when I am in a hurry, but then I also sometimes call her straight sister RAY (Rachael) too. Am I allowed to? I am saying NEITHER in a negative way. I am their Mom and love them both.
I guess it depends who is saying it and WHY.
pinto
(106,886 posts)I'm sorry to see the mixed jury results. Some juries removed posts from this member, others didn't. I'm glad they were alerted though. All jury members see the result and the comments from a juried post, fwiw.