Apartheid is no longer verboten word for Israel in ‘NYT’ and ‘CNN’

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/apartheid-longer-verboten

Conditions haven’t changed much in apartheid Palestine since then, but a big change happened in Israel last week, the reelection of Benjamin Netanyahu, and suddenly the apartheid label is no longer verboten in our mainstream media. I saw the word apartheid on the front page of the International New York Times the other day on my plane coming home: it was printed in the reefer (bottom left hand corner promotion) of Yousef Munayyer’s op-ed piece saying Netanyahu’s victory is good for Palestine. In the piece, Munayyer stated bluntly that Israel is an apartheid state:

the political dynamics in Israel and internationally mean that another term with Mr. Netanyahu at the helm could actually hasten the end of Israel’s apartheid policies. The biggest losers in this election were those who made the argument that change could come from within Israel. It can’t and it won’t.

And yesterday on CNN, Rula Jebreal from Jerusalem told Michael Smerconish that Israel/Palestine is one state, and an apartheid state at that.

It’s already de facto a one state with separate sets of rights… So we have an apartheid state on one hand [in Jerusalem and the West Bank] and I would say an ethnocracy rather than a democracy [in Israel].

[BillZBubb]

1. The truth does occasionally get out.

Hopefully, the president will pick up the banner on this.

[oberliner]

2. And of course Mondoweiss goes to the Nazi terminology

In keeping with their general theme - they love to sneak Nazi-era German words in there whenever possible in relation to Israel.

This headline they get the apartheid-verboten two-fer!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

3. Deal with it ober.

[Mosby]

4. why do you always make things personal?

It's really bad form.

Do you think it's OK that DU Jews might have different opinions than yours?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

5. Oh, is this the guilt angle? Guilt doesn't work on me.

Do you think it's OK that DU Jews might have different opinions than yours?

This isn't about "DU Jews" or their feelings. This is about human rights, colonialism, bigotry, apartheid and Israel openly showing it's embrace of the right. No amount of hasbara will erase what has happened.

I really don't give two hoots what hasbara feels. Hasbara, IMHO, is as bankrupt and failed as Zionism appears to be after voting for right wingers and open apartheid...to be perfectly blunt.

I guess that one must examine where their loyalties lay: to a corrupt rogue state or to human rights for all.

[android fan]

11. Why don't you go harass Assad instead..

Seeing that there's a civil war there...

Or Mugabe....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

13. You do understand that this is I/P, and issues

Related to I/P are discussed here?

If you can't handle the painful truth then perhaps you should sit in a corner until that time when you are able.

[oberliner]

7. This is someone who regularly posts from Mondoweiss

And just chided someone else for using Elder of Ziyon.

They must not own mirrors.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

10. Is posting to EOZ allowed or is it considered

a hate site?

Mondoweiss is news that gasbara 101 can't stomach.

Deal with it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

18. That troll that used EOZ was punted by skinner.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=320648&sub=trans

Any questions?

[azurnoir]

6. verboten is forbidden in German Apartheid is Afrikaans coined in 1948

neither are Nazi era terms unless you consider any German word to have Nazi era connotation and Apartheid isn't German and did not come into being as a word until after WW2

[Little Tich]

8. I like Mondo Weiss. Good source. nt

[android fan]

12. Nope. Not a good source at all.

It's 100% propaganda, and should not be used as a source.

You fell for the propaganda, so I feel sorry for you.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. Since you posted to a hate site the hastily deleted it

I would suggest that you are out if your depth when telling others what us and isn't propaganda.

[android fan]

15. Hate site for you, maybe...

But I was researching for information, and posted from the wrong source, and took it out.

You continue to post propaganda because there is no truth to those propaganda.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. Excuses, excuses...

Your post to that website was so innocent that you posted it twice, but only removed it once.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113498023#post1


But, but, but you were just searching for information...

[Little Tich]

16. You have a right to your own opinion, even if you are wrong.

I think Mondo Weiss is a good source, because it is factually accurate and also correctly conveys the displeasure that many people who are pro civil rights feel about what’s going on in Israel. There is a certain bias, but that bias is pro-Israel as a democracy, as I see it. The bias is in no shape or form anti-Israel.

Now, you raised the point that the site contains propaganda of some sort. For me propaganda strongly implies untruthfullness and/ or deceit in some form. Basically, the more lies in a message, the closer it is to propaganda.

I did some cursory truth-checking of the article “Sanitizing the Nakba, in ‘The New York Times Book Review’” (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/sanitizing-nakba-review), and it really corresponds to what I know already, and didn’t ring any alarm bells. I browsed through some other articles, and again no alarm bells.

What I got from browsing Mondo Weiss was actually that there is a sense that Israel should be judged by American standards, and not given a free pass. I have no problem with that.

If you have a more provable point to bring up than just your own assertions, please do so. Until then, I have to assume that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Dick Dastardly]

9. This article is asinine.

It never was a verboten word.
It was said along with a pile of other bs in a NYT OpEd which by definition present controversial viewpoints by those outside the NYT. I have seen it used many times before in letters, opeds and other articles.

CNN was an interview and just like NYT and other media, its nothing new.