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Related: About this forumThe kidnapping is indefensible – but Israel helped provoke it
http://972mag.com/the-kidnapping-is-indefensible-but-israel-helped-provoke-it/92108/So the virtually unchallenged view today is that Palestinian terror comes out of the blue it has nothing to do with the occupation, or Israels stance in the just-ended peace process, or its policy toward Palestinian prisoners, or anything at all. It follows, then, that theres nothing really wrong with the occupation, or our stance in the peace process, or our policy toward prisoners or whatever else we do. What we do to them is irrelevant, its not worth any attention. The Palestinians act out of motiveless malignity, like Shakespeares evil character Iago.
This belief that Israel is a passive innocent and the Palestinians relentless evildoers leads the public, led perfectly by Netanyahu, to make endless demands on the other side while ignoring theirs. And when the Palestinian Authority keeps the peace year after year in West Bank cities, villages and refugee camps in the face of the most contemptuous, unyielding Israeli government in 30 years, Israelis dont find anything remarkable there thats the way it should be. So when a terror attack does occur, Israelis are stunned: why are they doing this to us? Where does such evil come from?
I imagine that in the rest of the world (except America), the reaction to the kidnapping, to the extent that there is a reaction, is: What does Israel expect? Because the world (outside America) sees what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, which Israelis dont.
An example of this one-eyed view is the resentment here being directed at PA leader Mahmoud Abbas because he hasnt publicly denounced the kidnapping. What escapes Israelis notice, though, is that on Wednesday night, a day and a half before the news of the kidnapping, it was reported that a highly credible autopsy found that 17-year-old Nadim Nawarah, one of the two Palestinian boys killed in a Nakba Day protest, was shot with live bullets, despite the IDFs claim that its troops shot only rubber-coated ones yet not a word was heard from the Israeli army or government. First a video shows that Israeli troops shot and killed Nawarah and Muhammad Salameh, 16, while they were doing nothing but walking down a road, and the IDF denies responsibility. Then an autopsy proves the IDF wrong, and Israel reacts with a blank stare. Yet in Israel people are offended that Abbas, whose forces are reportedly combing the West Bank for the kidnappers, hasnt spoken out publicly against the attack.
This belief that Israel is a passive innocent and the Palestinians relentless evildoers leads the public, led perfectly by Netanyahu, to make endless demands on the other side while ignoring theirs. And when the Palestinian Authority keeps the peace year after year in West Bank cities, villages and refugee camps in the face of the most contemptuous, unyielding Israeli government in 30 years, Israelis dont find anything remarkable there thats the way it should be. So when a terror attack does occur, Israelis are stunned: why are they doing this to us? Where does such evil come from?
I imagine that in the rest of the world (except America), the reaction to the kidnapping, to the extent that there is a reaction, is: What does Israel expect? Because the world (outside America) sees what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, which Israelis dont.
An example of this one-eyed view is the resentment here being directed at PA leader Mahmoud Abbas because he hasnt publicly denounced the kidnapping. What escapes Israelis notice, though, is that on Wednesday night, a day and a half before the news of the kidnapping, it was reported that a highly credible autopsy found that 17-year-old Nadim Nawarah, one of the two Palestinian boys killed in a Nakba Day protest, was shot with live bullets, despite the IDFs claim that its troops shot only rubber-coated ones yet not a word was heard from the Israeli army or government. First a video shows that Israeli troops shot and killed Nawarah and Muhammad Salameh, 16, while they were doing nothing but walking down a road, and the IDF denies responsibility. Then an autopsy proves the IDF wrong, and Israel reacts with a blank stare. Yet in Israel people are offended that Abbas, whose forces are reportedly combing the West Bank for the kidnappers, hasnt spoken out publicly against the attack.
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The kidnapping is indefensible – but Israel helped provoke it (Original Post)
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jun 2014
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Yea, that is no surprise. When you have no political power you're worthless. n/t
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#3
Netanyahu attempts to score political points by directing conversation about abducted
Jefferson23
Jun 2014
#4
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)1. Will anyone from the US suggest the settlers leave the West Bank? n/t
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)2. Honestly? No.
Incidentally, have you noticed the difference in press coverage between the Nakba day killings and the kidnapping?
There was scant to no coverage in the MSM for the two Palestinians gunned down, but with the Israelis it has been wall to wall coverage.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)3. Yea, that is no surprise. When you have no political power you're worthless. n/t
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)4. Netanyahu attempts to score political points by directing conversation about abducted
teens to destroy unity talks..what a guy.
sabbat hunter
(6,839 posts)5. The kidnapping is indefensible
but I am going to defend it.
That is what I got out of the article and the subject line.
It is like saying "I am not racist but" or "I am all for equal rights but"
Simply, no no no.
condemn the kidnappings flat out.
condemn the settlements.
But do not say "well they provoked it"
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)6. Opinions vary.
I no more want to see Israeli youth kidnapped by assholes than I wish to see Palestinian youths gunned down by them.
If one can't see a corollary between the two I'm not sure what they can see.
The Palestinian youths are dead and can't come back. I just hope that the Israeli youth will be released unharmed.