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Related: About this forumIran’s president-elect implicated in 1994 Argentina bombing
...The 2006 indictment (PDF) names Rowhani as a member of the committee headed by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that planned the bombing, the deadliest attack of its kind in Argentinian history. Rowhanis name in the indictment was first reported by the Washington Free Beacon....
...The specific motivation for the 1994 AMIA bombing, according to the Argentinian prosecutor who investigated the case, was to punish Argentina for suspending its nuclear cooperation with Iran. Once the decision was taken to act against the country, Alberto Nisman, the prosecutor in the case, said, it was a Jewish target that was decided upon again, a familiar Iranian strategy.
When they choose to act against a country, the attack is commonly on the Jewish community, he said. Its the first target.
Speaking with The Times of Israel two weeks ago, soon after he issued a new 500-page report on the bombing and Irans wider terrorist infiltration of South America, Nisman said that Tehran had established its terror networks for the strategic long term, ready to be used whenever it needs them.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-president-elect-implicated-in-1994-argentina-bombing/
Cue the terror apologists who will argue Rowhani is really a moderate while Bibi is the hardliner...
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Too many other things going on, I suppose.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Iran has always denied any involvement in the bombing.
Strange then, that Buenos Aires and Tehran would come to sign a memorandum of understanding to investigate the case. But that is precisely what happened on January 27 this year, when the two governments committed to creating a truth commission
http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/how-a-bomb-reverberates-for-19-years/622/
and it gets better than that too
bemildred
(90,061 posts)This is a story I take an interest in, it has an aura about it, and yet that piece told me some new things about all this. And a good read. But I still don't have any idea who did it.
Edit: and I do see there is quite a little argument going on about it, but it's all being mostly ignored internationally.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)as to this not getting much attention I read it last night io Ynet who credited the story to a paper called the Washington Free Beacon, which I've never heard of before
Iranian President-elect Hassan Rohani was on the special Iranian government committee that plotted the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires, the Washington Free Beacon reported Thursday. The bombing left 85 people dead and hundreds wounded.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4394839,00.html
bemildred
(90,061 posts)He is running one of the two wildly different narratives on this thing. It's pretty elaborate, but mostly circumstance and hearsay. OTOH, I don't find the counter-narratives very convincing either. The piece you linked has some leaps of faith and appeals to circumstance too.
I was googling around about it, and what I saw was some Israeli sites, some Argentine sites, some "specialized" sites like you mention, and not much else, which is why I say it's not being picked up. I could see it getting a lot more play in a slow news week, but with al the "scandals" and the wars in the Middle East, etc., not so much.
I've been interested in it almost since I've been meddling in I/P down here, it just reeks of strangeness and contention, wild charges and counter-charges and investigators being investigated and judges being investigated and whatnot. Popcorn material. Spook stuff.
I had not known of the Kirschner's involvements in it, or seen that quote from Christina.
The entire fuss about the new report was new to me too, all this has been going on and I didn't know.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but not all too much since then, as for the wars going on in the ME especially Syria I think this could be spun into that somehow, but then again IMO the Wests involvement in that especially the US involvement is really a proxy war against Iran with the Syrian people being the victims
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Much bigger stuff at stake than an old bombing in an age of bombings.
Don't get me started on Syria. What a mess. It's a lose-lose if I ever saw one. Whatever you do, it's going to be wrong.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and Syria there is no good answer or guy in the conflict there only bad and worse
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Like when some guy shoots himself in Tunisia and the Middle East crumbles into chaos. The "black swans", which most of the time I think are really phase changes in chaotic systems caused by loss of equilibrium, the transition to a new (more or less) stable form under new conditions, like water becoming ice or vice versa, all those little molecules deciding to clump together now because it's cold. I think it works like that with human societies too, sometimes. Like when the USSR collapsed. I think the USA might well collapse the way its going, we are on the way there now, and DC can't even hardly admit it has a problem. All this secrecy is just an admission that they are afraid of the truth, and that is a bad place to be.
shira
(30,109 posts)Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,164031,00.html#ixzz2WnWmg4BX
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)now the war drums against Iran can continue unimpeded, but I must ask did you pick ToI to give the site more traffic or because Ynet named the original source?
shira
(30,109 posts)...is can now be considered beating the drums of war against Iran. Knowledge is power.....or not.
It's best to pretend he's moderate, like pretending the MB of Egypt (or Tunisia) was moderate. That pretense has worked out so well...
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)thanks again though as I said we knew there would be something and you provided it as I guessed someone would
shira
(30,109 posts)But like then, you and your apologist friends are trying real hard to defend the worst of the worst.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)is Rohani actually being indicted? Is there a warrant for his arrest?
shira
(30,109 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2013, 08:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Seems you're against any "demonizing" (translated: criticism) of radical, extreme religious fanatical leadership. It appears better to pretend they're all moderate, from Iran to the MB....
Why?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)and who says I;m against the public knowing oh yeah you
jessie04
(1,528 posts)I hope they have enough soap in Iran to get the blood off his hands.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)do you think he did it or what or is it anyone in the Iranian government at the time?