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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:50 PM Nov 2023

Israel compares Hamas to the Islamic State group. But the comparison misses the mark in key ways

Source: Associated Press

Israel compares Hamas to the Islamic State group. But the comparison misses the mark in key ways

BY JOSEF FEDERMAN
Updated 8:51 AM EST, November 29, 2023

Since the bloody Hamas attack on Oct. 7 that triggered the conflict, Israeli leaders and commanders have likened the Palestinian militant group to the Islamic State group in virtually every speech and public statement. They point to Hamas’ slaughter of hundreds of civilians and compare their mission to defeat Hamas to the U.S.-led campaign to defeat IS in Iraq and Syria.

But in many ways, these comparisons miss the mark by ignoring the home-grown origins and base of support for Hamas in Palestinian society and by assuming that this deeply embedded movement can be stamped out like a brush fire.

These miscalculations may already have led to unrealistic expectations in Israel for victory. They also complicate fledgling efforts by the U.S. and other international mediators to end the war, which has devastated Gaza, displaced more than three-quarters of its population and killed over 13,300 Palestinians, according to health authorities in the Hamas-ruled territory.

Here is a closer look at the campaigns against these very different militant groups and what it could mean for Israel’s ground invasion and the future of Gaza.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-islamic-state-group-29e59446a42d077323a3a216127c4978

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Israel compares Hamas to the Islamic State group. But the comparison misses the mark in key ways (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2023 OP
extremist, fundamentalist, terrorist stopdiggin Nov 2023 #1
As far as I can tell, the only thing that misses the mark is Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #2
Well... both have the destruction of Israel as a primary goal FBaggins Nov 2023 #3
Both Hamas and the Islamic State Group need to be wiped out The Mouth Nov 2023 #4

stopdiggin

(11,308 posts)
1. extremist, fundamentalist, terrorist
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 01:02 PM
Nov 2023

and embedded (along with misery and fear) in the civilian population.

Nope, can't understand how anybody would ...

Beastly Boy

(9,348 posts)
2. As far as I can tell, the only thing that misses the mark is
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 06:56 PM
Nov 2023

that the Islamic State didn't routinely place their military resources in schools and hospitals.

Sure, Islamic State didn't have home-grown origins and base of support in Palestinian society, and Hamas did, but that's self-evident, and might as well be ignored. IS had its own home-grown base of support in societies other than Palestinians. I don't see how this makes IS any different from Hamas.

FBaggins

(26,739 posts)
3. Well... both have the destruction of Israel as a primary goal
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 09:01 PM
Nov 2023

So there’s that

But their flags are entirely different colors.

The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
4. Both Hamas and the Islamic State Group need to be wiped out
Thu Nov 30, 2023, 12:56 PM
Nov 2023

to the last person.

I will support anything either Israel or the US does to eliminate both of these entities.

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