Poll: 78% of Jewish Israelis say Iran deal endangers country

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http://m.jpost.com/?Mobileid=2#article=6017NzFDRDRCQUQ3NTJBMjY1RkY5M0ZDQTUzNDI5QjdCNjk=

The percentage saying that the deal would endanger Israel was 78%. Fifteen percent said it does endanger Israel and 7% did not know.

Seventy-one percent said the deal would bring Iran closer to a military nuclear capability. Twelve percent said it would distance Iran and 17% did not know.


When asked whether they support an Israeli military strike on Iran if it would be necessary to prevent the Islamic state from getting nuclear weapons, 47% said yes, 35% said no, and 18% did not know.

Fifty-one percent said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should use all possible tools to persuade Congress to vote against the deal, 38% said the prime minister should instead try to reach understandings with US President Barack Obama about its implementation, and 11% did not know.

So, pretty much in line with the viewers of Fox News.

51% want to shamelessly interfere with our political process. A plurality want war with Iran.

[Fozzledick]

1. Gee, maybe they know something you don't - or don't want to.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

2. Are you implying the President and SOS are misleading people?

I think they have a better grip on things than Joe Blow average right wing Israeli.

[Fozzledick]

3. Are you implying that 78% of Israelis are "right wing"?

Broad brush smear to say the least.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

6. Way to not address the question.

Do you think the President is misleading people on this deal? Yes or No.

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10. Oh, look, the rightwing talking point that

Obama doesn't care about Israel's security.

You know this is a liberal board, not a Likud or Republican one, right?

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9. No, just right-wing and manipulated by fear mongering

villains.


Bibi is no different than Bush-Cheney, and his supporters likewise.

[karynnj]

23. maybe their PM has fed them a steady diet of paranoid words

Consider the percent of people who backed GWB in 2003. Not to mention, it is not just Bibi. Every leader they have is saying the same thing.

However consider Netanyahu said that even if there was a deal similar to the framework -and this is - and Iran complied,it would still be a bad deal. That shows that there is no achievable deal he would have tolerated.

[kysrsoze]

4. Propaganda works! Good job, Bibi.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Because

Iran!

This guy is more convincing:

The full, final Iran nuclear deal "exceeds in all areas," Stein said on Tuesday. "It makes the possibility of Iran developing a nuclear weapon in the next 25 years extremely remote."

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/2/8337347/iran-deal-good

[azurnoir]

8. Why were only Jewish Israeli's questioned for the poll?

Is there some problem with asking the opinions of non-Jewish Israeli's?

[Mosby]

18. great question. nt

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19. I dunno, not my poll. It is the JPost, which could explain it.

Also, if one is going to be bluntly realistic, the only voices that matter in Israel's electoral system are Jewish ones. It's not like Netanyahu gives a rip about Arabs, except to complain that they're daring to vote.

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11. Do you not support the US shamelessly interfering with Israel's political process?

Shouldn't the US government put pressure on Netanyahu to stop building settlements, for example?

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12. Does the US directly lobby Knesset members

or rather engage in diplomatic contacts with the government.

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13. After snubbing Netanyahu, Biden meets with Israeli opposition leader Herzog

Having snubbed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's planned speech to Congress the previous day, US Vice President Joe Biden on Saturday met with Netanyahu's main political rival, the leader of Israel's center-left bloc Isaac Herzog, on the sidelines of the Munich security conference.

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/60248-150206-netanyahu-misled-into-believing-boehner-s-invitation-had-bipartisan-support

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14. so a chat in Munich is the same as a full-out lobbying blitz both directly

and via proxies such as AIPAC?

[oberliner]

15. You asked if the US directly lobbies Knesset members

I tried to provide an example to demonstrate that they do.

Do you think it is ok for the US to lobby opposition Knesset members to try to bring pressure on Netanyahu to change his policies with respect to settlements?

Would you consider that to be interfering with their political process?

Let's say there was a RW Republican US President who was blocking any kind of international nuclear deal with Iran.

Would you be opposed to European countries who support a deal trying to lobby Democrats in Congress to put pressure on the RW Republican US President to agree to a deal or would you object to that sort of meddling?

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16. Objection, assuming facts not in evidence.

You have not established, or even demonstrated any reason to believe, that Biden was lobbying Herzog. Much more likely, it was Herzog talking to Biden about the Iran deal.


And yes, it would be objectionable to have Europeans lobbying our Congress.

[Scootaloo]

22. The settlements are not an Israeli policy issue, they are an international relations issue

You DO remember our little talk abotu where Israel's borders lie, don't you?

(Hint: The Green Line is not Israel's border)

[Jefferson23]

21. That's because 78% are effectively brainwashed. n/t