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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:04 AM Jul 2015

Peter Beinart: Why Hillary Clinton is moving left on every issue except Israel

Source: Haaretz

In a letter to hawkish donor Haim Saban, she hints she may oppose a two-state resolution at the UN.

From immigration to campaign finance reform to criminal justice, Hillary Clinton’s campaign strategy is clear: Move to Barack Obama’s left, to energize liberal voters. Except on Israel, where she’s moving to Barack Obama’s right, to energize hawkish donors.

The latest example is a just-released letter about her opposition to the movement to boycott, divest from and sanction Israel (BDS). Among the most significant things about the letter is one of the people to whom it’s addressed: Haim Saban. (Hillary sent similar letters to at least two other Jewish organizational officials, Malcolm Hoenlein and Jack Rosen). Saban is neither an expert on the Middle East nor on Jewish law or culture. He’s a guy who writes large checks. These days, if Joseph Ber Soleveitchik or Abraham Joshua Heschel wanted to correspond with a presidential candidate, they’d first be asked to donate to his Super PAC.

And Saban isn’t just any mega-donor. He’s a mega-donor who thinks Barack Obama has been bad for Israel. As Connie Bruck reported a few years ago in The New Yorker, Saban was so suspicious of Obama’s views on Iran in 2008 that he considered backing John McCain. Saban’s preferred approach: “I would bomb the daylight out of these sons of bitches.” Not surprisingly, one Saban advisor told Bruck, “I don’t think Haim feels particularly positive about Bibi’s performance. But he certainly isn’t happy about Obama’s.”

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Peter Beinart: Why Hillary Clinton is moving left on every issue except Israel (Original Post) Little Tich Jul 2015 OP
HRC boasts:as SoS I made sure US blocked Palestinian attempts at statehood. Divernan Jul 2015 #1
The next President won't care much about the Palestinians. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2
I'm not so sure about Bernie azurnoir Jul 2015 #3
I agree with you. Little Tich Jul 2015 #4

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
1. HRC boasts:as SoS I made sure US blocked Palestinian attempts at statehood.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 08:02 AM
Jul 2015

More from linked Haaretz article (behind the paywall). Note, that even without getting past the paywall, the link in the OP gives you access to reading the comments in Haaretz - many of which are scathingly critical of HRC.
Headline: Why Hillary Clinton is moving left on every issue except Israel
Subheadline: In a letter to hawkish donor Haim Saban, she hints she may oppose a two-state resolution at the UN.
By Peter Beinart | Jul. 9, 2015 | 4:29 PM | 27
Photo Caption: Hillary Clinton and Benjamin Netanyahu
Then-U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton laughs as she meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, September 27, 2012. Photo by Reuters

Reading Hillary’s letter in light of its recipient, a few things become clear. First, don’t expect her to express much concern for Palestinians. In his campaign book, “The Audacity of Hope,” Obama emphasized the common humanity of Palestinians and Israeli Jews. “Traveling through Israel and the West Bank,” he wrote. “I talked to Jews who’d lost parents in the Holocaust and brothers in suicide bombings; I heard Palestinians talk of the indignities of checkpoints and reminisce about the land they had lost. I flew by helicopter across the line separating the two peoples and found myself unable to distinguish Jewish towns from Arab towns, all of them like fragile outposts against the green and stony hills.”

Compare that to Hillary’s letter. Yes, she reaffirms her support for two states. But only because “Israel’s long-term security and future as a Jewish state depends on having two states for two peoples.” Not because Palestinians have legitimate grievances or aspirations. And Hillary reaffirms that support in a letter to Saban, a man who, like her, supports Palestinian statehood because it preserves Israel’s Jewish majority but has so little regard for Palestinians that at an event last November, he endorsed Sheldon Adelson’s contention that they are an “invented people.”



Second, Hillary isn’t serious about combatting BDS. In her letter, she asks Saban’s “advice on how we can work together — across party lines and with a diverse array of voices” to oppose BDS(boycott, divest, sanction). But Saban has already publicly offered that advice, and it’s disastrous. Last month, he co-sponsored an anti-BDS Summit with Adelson whose “diverse array of voices” ranged from establishment Jewish groups that defend Israeli policy in the West Bank to right-wing Jewish groups that muse about whether Barack Obama is Muslim.
Left out were those American Jewish organizations, like J Street and Americans for Peace Now, which think Israel’s undemocratic control of millions of stateless Palestinians constitutes a moral problem. Left out, in other words, were the only American Jewish groups that enjoy any credibility among the progressives to whom the BDS movement appeals. If Hillary really wanted to combat BDS — as opposed to raising money by pretending to combat it — Saban is among the last people whose advice she’d seek.

Thirdly, and most intriguingly, Hillary is signaling that she may oppose Obama if he backs a two-state resolution at the UN this fall. In her letter, she goes out of her way to equate the BDS movement with Palestinian initiatives at the UN. “We’ve seen this sort of attack before at the UN and elsewhere,” writes Hillary. “As senator and secretary of state, I saw how crucial it is for America to defend Israel at every turn. I have opposed dozens of anti-Israel resolutions at the UN ... And I made sure the United States blocked Palestinian attempts at the UN to unilaterally declare statehood.” "Made sure". The implication is that left to their own devices, others in the Obama administration might not have come to Israel’s aid. It all adds up to a hint that if the White House backs a two-state resolution at the Security Council this fall, the woman who says America must “defend Israel at every turn” at the UN will make her opposition known.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. The next President won't care much about the Palestinians.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jul 2015

Obama is the high water mark as far as that's concerned in the US.

Clinton, or the Republican, or Bernie, would have the same I/P policy as Bush: lip service on two states, indifference and disengagement on the so-called peace process, no meaningful pressure on Israel, and continued reflexive support of Israel at the UN.

50/50 on the US recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

The US hasn't had a productive role to play in that dispute since 1995, and quite frankly is not likely to have a productive role ever again.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. I'm not so sure about Bernie
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:18 AM
Jul 2015

here is a snip from his interview with Diane Rehm, unfortunately the content got lost in the up roar over her outragous antisemitic contention that Sanders was an Israeli citizen, howevr Sanders sayingg that the Palestinians should have economic support from the US is a surprise as it is less than popular these days on Capital hill

REHM: Tell me your feeling about whether there should be a two-state solution should Palestine be given statehood?

SANDERS: Absolutely. What you have in that part of the world is an unspeakable tragedy. And it seems like it’s never-ending and it seems like it every year gets worse and worse and more killing and more bombings and everything else. And again, Diane, if I had the magical solution to that problem I would be in the president’s office today giving it. I don’t have it. But clearly the goals are two-fold: number one the Palestinian people, in my view, deserve a state of their own, they deserve an economy of their own, they deserve economic support from the people of this country. And Israel needs to be able to live in security without terrorist attacks. Those are the goals of I think any sensible foreign policy in that region.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/16/1393386/-BNR-Sanders-Im-Not-A-Great-Fan-Of-Netanyahu#

Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
4. I agree with you.
Sun Jul 12, 2015, 01:41 AM
Jul 2015

Bernie Sanders seems to be able to fathom the moral aspects of the I/P conflict, and sympathizes with both sides. I don't want to
criticize HRC too much, but Bernie Sanders would be a good president.

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