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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 05:06 PM Jul 2012

German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria

German intelligence estimates that "around 90" terror attacks that "can be attributed to organizations that are close to al-Qaeda or jihadist groups" were carried out in Syria between the end of December and the beginning of July, as reported by the German daily Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). This was revealed by the German government in a response to a parliamentary question.

In response to the same question, the German government admitted that it had received several reports from the German foreign intelligence service, the BND, on the May 25 massacre in the Syrian town of Houla. But it noted that the content of these reports was to remain classified "by reason of national interest", Like many other Western governments, Germany expelled Syria's ambassador in the immediate aftermath of the massacre, holding the Syrian government responsible for the violence.

Meanwhile, at least three major German newspapers - Die Welt, the FAZ, and the mass-market tabloid Bild - have published reports attributing responsibility for the massacre to anti-government rebel forces or treating this as the most probable scenario.

Writing in Bild, longtime German war correspondent Jurgen Todenhofer accused the rebels of "deliberately killing civilians and then presenting them as victims of the government". He described this "massacre-marketing strategy" as being "among the most disgusting things that I have ever experienced in an armed conflict". Todenhofer had recently been to Damascus, where he interviewed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for Germany's ARD public television.


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NG24Ak02.html

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German intelligence: al-Qaeda all over Syria (Original Post) jakeXT Jul 2012 OP
This is Bosnia & Kosovo redux. Al Qaeda is our "ally" again. It's so nice to have reliable friends leveymg Jul 2012 #1
Well, there have been plenty of instances of people with al-Qaeda flags and insignia. David__77 Jul 2012 #2
"Much" would amount to, what, say, 1% or so, d'ya reckon? Ghost Dog Jul 2012 #3
No, not really. David__77 Jul 2012 #4
The jihadists are already there MIDNITERIDER1438 Jul 2012 #5

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. This is Bosnia & Kosovo redux. Al Qaeda is our "ally" again. It's so nice to have reliable friends
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jul 2012

who have their own walking around money.

Too bad that eventually they tire of our company and inevitably spoil the party.

David__77

(23,623 posts)
2. Well, there have been plenty of instances of people with al-Qaeda flags and insignia.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jul 2012

To be fair, there are plenty in the armed opposition that adamantly oppose al-Qaeda. But much of the killing, bombing, and looting is performed by those seeking to establish a theocracy, a Caliph, fully aligned with the ideology of al-Qaeda.

David__77

(23,623 posts)
4. No, not really.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jul 2012

I do not think that 99% of the opposition violence is being conducted by forces opposed to theocratic ideology - not by any means. In fact, the secular opposition forces were - to put it mildly - reticent about engaging in armed struggle from the beginning. Now leftist and patriotic forces that were opposed to Assad have been put in a very uncomfortable position of having to tactically align with the existing government to some extent.

MIDNITERIDER1438

(113 posts)
5. The jihadists are already there
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:08 AM
Jul 2012

But what concerns me is to what end, besides the probability that what may eventually replace the Assad regime will not be a democratic government. What the Romney campaign of neocon bumblers gives script to their candidate warning of the dream of the jihadists to establish a "caliphate" somewhere is not in Iran but is more possible in a united Sunni nation-state adjacent to their Al Qaeda power base in Iraq. However, of even greater concern will be the massive quantities of WMD that exist in Syria as no where else in the Middle East.

The only parallels that the Romney group may be mistakenly but indirectly correct about is not the "Soviet threat" but the possibility of jihadist warfare by proxy in Syria. The jihadists are attempting to repeatedly paint the situation of the Assad regime's Alawite Shia minority as "occupiers" which is the rallying call for jihadist infiltration acceleration and engagement along side the Free Syrian Army (FSA), but the FSA has not fallen for this concept as of yet, whilst welcoming the participation of jihadsts but downplaying the idea of foreign fighters entering the fray en masse themselves.

The cause of immediate concern for the WMD stockpile is illustrated by the pilfering of large quantities of high explosives from the Iraqi depots as well as the unguarded warehouses of military hardware and materiel that was widely seen in Libya.

However, this is not one of the centers of the "Arab Spring" so distant from the bases of jihadist power but adjacent to Iraq and sharing that porous border.
http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/the-evidence-of-jihadist-activity-in-syria

"At least six formal terrorist organizations have long maintained personnel within Syria. Three of these groups PDF -- Hamas, Hezbollah, and Palestinian Islamic Jihad -- have already attempted to acquire or use chemical or biological agents, or both. Perhaps more troubling, Al Qaeda-affiliated fighters from Iraq have streamed into Syria, acting, in part, on orders from Al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri. In the past, Al Qaeda-in-Iraq fighters attempted to use chemical weapons, most notably attacks that sought to release large clouds of chlorine gas. The entry of Al Qaeda and other jihadist groups into the Syrian crisis underscores its increasingly sectarian manifestation. Nearly 40 percent of Syria's population consists of members of minority communities. Syria's ruling Alawite regime, a branch of Shia Islam, is considered heretical by many of Syria's majority Sunni Muslims -- even those who are not jihadists. Alawites, Druze, Kurds, and Christians could all become targets for WMD-armed Sunni jihadists. Similarly, Shiite radicals could conceivably employ WMD agents against Syria's Sunnis."
http://www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/op-eds/fearful-of-nuclear-iran-the-real-wmd-nightmare-syria

"Last Thursday, James R. Clapper, the Obama administration's director of national intelligence, told Congress that the United States thought Al Qaeda-affiliated fighters were responsible for the most spectacular rebel attacks on Syrian military forces in recent months, including suicide bombings in Damascus in December and January and two attacks earlier this month in Aleppo. The four attacks, which targeted Syrian military or intelligence facilities, killed at least 70 people.
Clapper called the presence of Al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria a "disturbing phenomenon" and warned that the anti-Assad rebels "in many cases may not be aware they are there."
"Formerly, Syrians used to come to fight in Iraq, but now they are fighting in Syria," Adnan al Asadi, Iraq's acting minister of interior, said Feb. 2 in comments distributed to McClatchy last week."
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0221/As-Al-Qaeda-moves-fight-to-Syria-violence-in-Iraq-drops-sharply





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