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RUSSIA TO ANNEX UZBEKISTAN: CONFLICT EXPLAINE (Original Post) Warpy Dec 2023 OP
One thing that Russia really needs right now is another war. Chainfire Dec 2023 #1
Russia is mad that it is losing influence tornado34jh Dec 2023 #2
Herman Cain doesn't care about "Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan".......... lastlib Dec 2023 #3
Who is this guy? getagrip_already Dec 2023 #4
I'm no expert, but ... CloudWatcher Dec 2023 #6
Name's Konstantin Warpy Dec 2023 #7
Thanks, worth watching CloudWatcher Dec 2023 #5
Putin getting what he wants would be just desserts Warpy Dec 2023 #9
and there's generally some loudmouth blowhard politician stopdiggin Dec 2023 #8

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
1. One thing that Russia really needs right now is another war.
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 07:36 PM
Dec 2023

Something to get their minds off of the debacle in Ukraine. A quick victory in Uzbekistan, like the one in Ukraine is just what the doctor ordered. For the glory of Mother Russia, forward comrads!

tornado34jh

(922 posts)
2. Russia is mad that it is losing influence
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 08:09 PM
Dec 2023

Ironically Uzbekistan doesn't even border Russia. But I will bet Turkey, given its pan-Turkic ideology, will not take this lightly from Russia. If I recall, the Central Asian countries (Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan), did not receive Putin well at one point. But let's face it, Russia want to recreate the USSR and then some. Now make no mistake, I believe at least two of those Central Asian countries has some sort of dictatorship in some shape or form. But again, Central Asia is rarely talked about. Except for the Baikonur Cosmodome in Kazakhstan, it's mostly unknown to the wider world.

lastlib

(23,243 posts)
3. Herman Cain doesn't care about "Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan"..........
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:29 PM
Dec 2023

We see where that got him...........
Putin is the second-most dangerous man in the world today

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
4. Who is this guy?
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 09:33 PM
Dec 2023

These youtube channels are blowing around like newspaper on city streets.

Anyone heard of him?

Is he credible? Russia really doesn't need another miscalculated war right now.

CloudWatcher

(1,848 posts)
6. I'm no expert, but ...
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:42 PM
Dec 2023

What he says doesn't conflict with what Google finds. E.g. from Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/uzbekistan-summons-russian-envoy-over-politicians-annexation-remark-2023-12-22/

Uzbekistan summons Russian envoy over politician's annexation remark
December 22, 20233:51 AM MST Updated 5 days ago

TASHKENT, Dec 22 (Reuters) - Uzbekistan's foreign ministry has summoned the Russian ambassador over a call by a Russian politician to annex the former Soviet republic, it said late on Thursday.

Russian nationalist writer Zakhar Prilepin, who is co-chair of the "A Just Russia - For Truth" party, said this week he believed Russia should annex Uzbekistan and other countries whose citizens travel en masse to Russia for work.

The Uzbek foreign ministry told Russian Ambassador Oleg Malginov on Thursday that Tashkent was "deeply concerned" about these "provocative" comments.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
7. Name's Konstantin
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:05 PM
Dec 2023

He has an economics degree from Russia, did post grad work at the U. of Maine. He lived in the US for 9 years, returned to Russia in the 00s, worked as a mid level executive in a company that designed and built power plants. He left Russia in September 2022 when his superiors told him he needed to skedaddle. He and part of his family (wife, youngest child and mother) live in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.

If you want to know what's going on in Russia, he's a decent source. He's a news junkie and as a trained economist, knows where to get the facts and figures it is now illegal to publish within Russia.

He's good on economic news, decent on social things, not great on prognostication. For nistance, he thought Putin would have flown out of a window by now, while I know there will be a power vacuum in Russia that will make the 90s look well organized, so anyone who wants to give him a shove is biding his time.

There are few sources in English for this stuff. He's worth listening to, along with Vlad Vexler.

(I discovered him when he was still doing travelogues in Rostov on Don and Moscow)

CloudWatcher

(1,848 posts)
5. Thanks, worth watching
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 10:34 PM
Dec 2023

I think the Russian politician accidentally said the quiet part out loud. It's no secret that Putin longs for rebuilding the USSR, and the clip showed Zakhar Prilepin talking about annexing every country that supplies large numbers of migrant labor to Russia ... for example Uzbekistan.

The vision is to annex everything close to Russia and rebuild the USSR. Note Uzbekistan doesn't even share a border with Russia, they'd have to go through Kazakhstan to get to it!

Those who correctly observe that it's totally ridiculous have only to consider Ukraine.

Warpy

(111,270 posts)
9. Putin getting what he wants would be just desserts
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:09 PM
Dec 2023

because the USSR plus the 'stans was never love's young dream, it was always a fractious alliance between Christian Russia and the Islamic states to its south, more of a tense truce than a partnership.

It would be even more tense now if it happened, and I seriously doubt it would ever happen. The 'stans know even more about being under Russia's boot heel than eastern Europe does,. and we know how little they want to go back there.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
8. and there's generally some loudmouth blowhard politician
Tue Dec 26, 2023, 11:09 PM
Dec 2023

to be found somewhere - that is willing to sacrifice just about anything (including commons sense and dignity) for his 15 minutes of fame.
(more than a couple showing up in Israel recently, but they're a species found commonly throughout the globe)

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