Gogama, Ont train derailment: 35 cars off tracks, five cars in river system

[Panich52]

Gogama train derailment: 35 cars off tracks, five cars in river system

cbc.ca - CN Rail has confirmed that 35 cars, carrying crude oil, went off the tracks in a fiery train derailment just outside of Gogama, Ont. on Saturday. Five of those cars are in Makami River, which is pa...

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[NYC_SKP]

1. We seriously need to examine our regulation of rail and other transport systems.

I prefer rail to pipeline, but better still is no need for some much transport to begin with.

And if we must transport (and we must), then it needs to be done with strict safety measures.

[NYC_SKP]

4. "We" as in the collective governments of North America who share resources and systems.

You don't know me, do you?

It's quite possible that I know more about energy and the energy industry than any single other DU member.

How many members can you name who have been asked by the U.S. Department of energy to deliver presentations and submit articles.

You asked, "Do you have any idea how many miles of pipeline we have in this country". Why yes, I think I do. Close to 200,000 miles of pipeline for petroleum and liquid fuels alone.

I post a lot about the industry, often critically:

There are over 43,000 miles of pipeline under water, in the Gulf alone.

And 50,686 individual bore holes or wells, in the Gulf alone.

Some of this infrastructure is over 60 years old.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=109424

Seriously, pipelines remain out of sight and out of mind and some interests prefer it that way.

Rail, on the other hand, is subject to ongoing inspection and the infrastructure can be used to move all manner of goods AND people!

Rail rocks.



Please note that Canada and the US are already connected by petroleum and liquid fuels pipelines.



Here's your natural gas pipeline infrastructure:



Here's your mess of underwater pipelines in the gulf:

[NYC_SKP]

6. The Deepwater Horizon, all alone, is worse than the collective destruction of US rail incidents.

If destruction to the environment is the measure.



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Next question, please.

[NYC_SKP]

8. Wow, you really don't know very much about the industry, do you?

Here, let me help.

You see, the part that failed is an integral part of what was to become a pipeline system when completed. The actual part that failed is referred to as the Blow Out Preventer, and it isn't removed until after running the completion string and testing.

Located at depths reaching more than 7,000 feet in some locations, the Mardi Gras Pipeline transportation system moves oil and gas production from the four BP-operated production platforms in the deepwater Gulf of Mexico to onshore facilities. http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/about-bp/bp-worldwide/bp-in-america/our-us-operations/exploration-and-production/deepwater-gulf-of-mexico.html

Now, unless you want to be persnickity and say, "Well, it was the BOP and not the pipeline, per se...", I'll tell you that it was the failure of a component in a pipeline system that is just an accident waiting to happen, and it may have literally been a pipe problem, even though the permanent pipeline wasn't in place yeat.

BP Blowout Preventer Failed Due to Pipe Buckling Says New Report

he blowout preventer (BOP) that was intended to shut off the flow of high-pressure oil and gas from the Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico during the disaster on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig on April 20, 2010, failed to seal the well because drill pipe buckled for reasons the offshore drilling industry remains largely unaware of, according to a new two-volume draft investigation report released today by the U.S. Chemical Safety Board (CSB).

The blowout caused explosions and a fire on the Deepwater Horizon rig, leading to the deaths of 11 personnel onboard and serious injuries to 17 others. Nearly 100 others escaped from the burning rig, which sank two days later, leaving the Macondo well spewing oil and gas into Gulf waters for a total of 87 days. By that time the resulting oil spill was the largest in offshore history. The failure of the BOP directly led to the oil spill and contributed to the severity of the incident on the rig.

The draft report will be considered for approval by the Board at a public meeting scheduled for 4 p.m. CDT at the Hilton Americas Hotel, 1600 Lamar St., Houston, TX 77010. The meeting will include a detailed staff presentation, Board questions, and public comments, and will be webcast.

The CSB report concluded that the pipe buckling likely occurred during the first minutes of the blowout, as crews desperately sought to regain control of oil and gas surging up from the Macondo well. Although other investigations had previously noted that the Macondo drill pipe was found in a bent or buckled state, this was assumed to have occurred days later, after the blowout was well underway.

http://tampa.legalexaminer.com/toxic-substances/bp-blowout-preventer-failed-due-to-pipe-buckling-says-new-report/

Like I said, keep it above ground where we can see it, inspect it, and with rail we can use the infrastructure for many more things than moving fossil fuel.

[Panich52]

9. Nice to see someone else who realizes keeping oil "viewable" is preferable

If I were a conspiracy fan, I'd be suspicious of the sudden spate of oil train derailments right when KXL was being debated openly and the pointless bill approving it was successfully vetoed.

Besides keeping tabs on oil movement, upgrading rail provides more jobs for a longer period and improve transportation options and safety for all.

Repairing & adding track, building new, and much safer, tanker cars ... Those are much more 'dependable' jobs than building pipelines.

[NYC_SKP]

10. Thanks for the mention. I appreciate your contributions to this board.

I guess that other person promoting hidden underground pipelines as a safer solution has been shown the door.

All of our infrastructure, energy, roads, bridges, need attention and few people want to take action in support of committing to the investment.

We'll pay the price if we don't do the right things.

[Wellstone ruled]

2. Appears via the photo,

CN Railway has some serous maintenance issues,notice the bridge is compromised,that in it's self tells a story as to why. Today's railroads are just a accident looking for a place to happen. Lack of maintenance,lack of man power to inspect equipment or right of way issues. Just appease Wall Street and to hell with anything else.