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Related: About this forumHyundai's Hydrogen Electric Fuel-Cell Car Makes US Debut
Some people said "never". Some said 10-20 years.
The first production Electric Fuel Cell Car is now available.
So "never" is now. 5 minute "recharge", 300 mile range, fuel cells have no moving parts (except a fan) and no spent lithium batteries to put into a landfill. And you don't have to lug around >1,300 pounds of extra weight.
Los Angeles:
A Southern California motorist drove off the lot of a Hyundai Motor Co dealership on Tuesday in a zero-emissions car touted by the automaker as marking the commercial debut of mass-produced hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles in the United States.
State energy and air-quality officials hailed the occasion in Tustin, California, about 35 miles (56 km) southeast of Los Angeles, as a milestone in efforts to curb tailpipe pollution that accounts for about a third of California's greenhouse gas emissions.
Independent industry analysts were less breathless about the announcement, noting that other automakers, including Honda Motor Co Ltd and Mercedes-Benz, have already put fuel cell vehicles on the road, albeit in very limited numbers.
They said the relatively high cost of building the cars and extremely low number of hydrogen refueling stations would constrain the market for such vehicles for years to come. But they credited South Korean-based Hyundai with making a high-profile commitment to a promising technology....
more http://profit.ndtv.com/news/corporates/article-hyundais-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car-makes-us-debut-478786
The Toyota FCV (that will be able to power a house instead of the house powering a car) will be out next year as well as the new Honda Clarity
Top Gear test drives the Honda Hydrogen Electric Clarity
http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/honda-clarity
The only exhaust is water. No more smog.
Twenty Hydrogen Myths- by noted environmentalist Amory Lovins/Rocky Mountain Institute
http://www.rmi.org/Knowledge-Center/Library/E03-05_TwentyHydrogenMyths
Myth #1. A whole hydrogen industry would need to be developed from scratch.
Myth #2. Hydrogen is too dangerous, explosive, or volatile for common use as a fuel.
Myth #3. Making hydrogen uses more energy than it yields, so its prohibitively inefficient
Myth #4. Delivering hydrogen to users would consume most of the energy it contains...
Myth #17. A viable hydrogen transition would take 3050 years or more to complete, and hardly anything worthwhile could be done sooner than 20 years
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(574 posts)be installed in every gas station in the US. Solar cells overhead can cut/eliminate the need for outside electricity.
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(2,169 posts)Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that a Hydrogen infrastructure can be installed in a matter of months not years and at a cost that is not that much more than Tesla's charging stations and probably much less than a battery swap station (that doesn't exist anywhere yet and probably won't)
Put solar panels on top and, after they're paid for, the gas is free.
But the US has other priorities, like Ukraine
President Obama and Vice President Biden have made U.S. support for Ukraine an urgent priority as the Ukrainian government works to establish security and stability, pursue democratic elections and constitutional reform, revive its economy, and ensure government institutions are transparent and accountable to the Ukrainian people...
...To support Ukraine, we are today announcing a new package of assistance totaling $50 million to help Ukraine pursue political and economic reform...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/04/21/fact-sheet-us-crisis-support-package-ukraine
$50 million could build quite a few clean Hydrogen fueling stations.