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OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:29 PM Jun 2013

What Tech Is Next for the Solar Industry?

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/516306/what-tech-is-next-for-the-solar-industry/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]What Tech Is Next for the Solar Industry?[/font]

[font size=4]Solar manufacturers are eager to implement several new technologies that could make solar power cheaper, and the panels easier to make.[/font]

By Kevin Bullis on June 21, 2013

[font size=3]Solar panel installations continue to grow quickly, but the solar panel manufacturing industry is in the doldrums because supply far exceeds demand (see “Why We Need More Solar Companies to Fail”). The poor market may be slowing innovation, but advances continue; judging by the mood this week at the IEEE Photovoltaics Specialists Conference in Tampa, Florida, people in the industry remain optimistic about its long-term prospects.

The technology that’s surprised almost everyone is conventional crystalline silicon. A few years ago, silicon solar panels cost $4 per watt, and Martin Green, professor at the University of New South Wales and one of the leading silicon solar panel researchers, declared that they’d never go below $1 a watt. “Now it’s down to something like 50 cents of watt, and there’s talk of hitting 36 cents per watt,” he says.

The U.S. Department of Energy has set a goal of reaching less than $1 a watt—not just for the solar panels, but for complete, installed systems—by 2020 (see “Why Solar Installations Cost More in the U.S. than in Germany”). Green thinks the solar industry will hit that target even sooner than that. If so, that would bring the direct cost of solar power to six cents per kilowatt-hour, which is cheaper than the average cost expected for power from new natural gas power plants. (The total cost of solar power, which includes the cost to utilities to compensate for its intermittency, would be higher, though precisely how much higher will depend on how much solar power is on the grid, and other factors.)

All parts of the silicon solar panel industry have been looking for ways to cut costs and improve the power output of solar panels, and that’s led to steady cost reductions. Green points to something as mundane as the pastes used to screen-print some of the features on solar panels. Green’s lab built a solar cell in the 1990s that set a record efficiency for silicon solar cells—a record that stands to this day. To achieve that record, he had to use expensive lithography techniques to make fine wires for collecting current from the solar cell. But gradual improvements have made it possible to use screen printing to produce ever-finer lines. Recent research suggests that screen-printing techniques can produce lines as thin as 30 micrometers—about the width of the lines Green used for his record solar cells, but at costs far lower than his lithography techniques.

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What Tech Is Next for the Solar Industry? (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Jun 2013 OP
Maybe Yucca Mountain can be used to store all the scrapped solar panels. wtmusic Jun 2013 #1
Unlike nuclear waste OKIsItJustMe Jun 2013 #2
Looks like solar recycling sites are easily hacked, too. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #3
Do you have a point? OKIsItJustMe Jun 2013 #4
Your link has been reported as an attack page. wtmusic Jun 2013 #6
Which, while unfortunate, is irrelevant OKIsItJustMe Jun 2013 #12
how about...solar PV for poorer countries quadrature Jun 2013 #5
It's finding a big market off the grid in India. wtmusic Jun 2013 #7
At some point someone will figure out SheilaT Jun 2013 #8
Maybe they could work on longevity... jtuck004 Jun 2013 #9
The right-wing antirenewable crusade is on DU in full force kristopher Jun 2013 #10
A used panel aftermarket? Iterate Jun 2013 #11

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
1. Maybe Yucca Mountain can be used to store all the scrapped solar panels.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 11:02 PM
Jun 2013

Just thinking outside the box.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
6. Your link has been reported as an attack page.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jun 2013

I know reputable solar sources are hard to find, but that's ridiculous.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
5. how about...solar PV for poorer countries
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:25 AM
Jun 2013

solar PV only seems to work for
US, Germany, and Japan.
why is that?

lots of places worldwide
have poor or no electric service.
lots of places worldwide have
yucky diesel powered neighborhood
electric systems.

how about somebody else do something
for a change

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. At some point someone will figure out
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:02 AM
Jun 2013

that they can own the solar rights above your land, just as today (at least in the West) they can own the mineral rights underneath your property.

I am honestly surprised it hasn't happened yet. If I can think of this, and I'm fairly bright, but far from the smartest person out there . . . .

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. Maybe they could work on longevity...
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jun 2013

Solar Industry Anxious Over Defective Panels


LOS ANGELES — The solar panels covering a vast warehouse roof in the sun-soaked Inland Empire region east of Los Angeles were only two years into their expected 25-year life span when they began to fail.

Coatings that protect the panels disintegrated while other defects caused two fires that took the system offline for two years, costing hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost revenues.

It was not an isolated incident. Worldwide, testing labs, developers, financiers and insurers are reporting similar problems and say the $77 billion solar industry is facing a quality crisis just as solar panels are on the verge of widespread adoption.
...


Problems like this get press that could slow the adoption of newer technology.

More Here

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
10. The right-wing antirenewable crusade is on DU in full force
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jun 2013

This is their latest go-to source for misinformation. It's set up and functions exactly like The Tobacco Institute, only in this case they are serving the right wing energy establishment.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Tobacco_Institute


The Breakthrough Institute – Why The Hot Air?
June 17, 2013

I’ve recently stumbled upon a number of articles by the Breakthrough Institute (BTI) that aimed at discrediting renewable energy on the one hand and on the other preaching about nuclear energy as the solution for the global energy crisis of the 21st century. With their hearts and minds pre-set on pushing their narrative, that some kind of a nuclear salvation is being held back by leftish environmentalists (sinister!), the so called German “Energiewende” (Energy Transition) has apparently become a regular target of the Breakthrough Institute staff’s publications.


Read more at http://cleantechnica.com/2013/06/17/the-breakthrough-institute-why-the-hot-air/#ABU468biCz85Axtk.99

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
11. A used panel aftermarket?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:50 AM
Jun 2013

Maybe the next innovation isn't strictly technological.

Production companies may want to swap out old panels for new as efficiency increases, or may want to keep a plant under warranty, who knows. Changing them is not a big deal once the infrastructure is in place. There is no reason they would necessarily keep them until failure, which might be 40 years.

For them, better to sell them downmarket, and I'm sure many buyers would be interested if the price is right. For marginal buyers, even a panel that produces 80% of new output and has 15 years of life left would be too much to pass up. Hell, I'd even buy a used panel from...a DUer.

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