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The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 08:48 AM Aug 2017

Paul Kingsnorth: We Got Too Big for the World

Paul Kingsnorth is one of most clear-minded, rational fatalists you will ever read. I highly recommend him as a civilizational purgative.

We Got Too Big for the World

Living through a collapse is a curious experience. Perhaps the most curious part is that nobody wants to admit it’s a collapse. The results of half a century of debt-fueled “growth” are becoming impossible to deny convincingly, but even as economies and certainties crumble, our appointed leaders bravely hold the line. No one wants to be the first to say the dam is cracked beyond repair.

To listen to a political leader at this moment in history is like sitting through a sermon by a priest who has lost his faith but is desperately trying not to admit it, even to himself. Watch your chosen president or prime minister mouthing tough-guy platitudes to the party faithful. Listen to them insisting in studied prose that all will be well. Study the expressions on their faces as they talk about “growth” as if it were a heathen god to be appeased by tipping another cauldron’s worth of fictional money into the mouth of a volcano.

The crisis currently playing out on the world stage is a crisis of growth. Not, as we are regularly told, a crisis caused by too little growth, but by too much of it. Banks grew so big that their collapse would have brought down the entire global economy. To prevent this, they were bailed out with huge tranches of public money, which in turn is precipitating social crises on the streets of Western nations. The European Union has grown so big, and so unaccountable, that it threatens to collapse in on itself. Corporations have grown so big that they are overwhelming democracies and building a global plutocracy to serve their own interests. The human economy as a whole has grown so big that it has been able to change the atmospheric composition of the planet and precipitate a mass-extinction event.

One man who would not have been surprised by this crisis of bigness, had he lived to see it, was Leopold Kohr. Kohr has a good claim to be the most interesting political thinker that you have never heard of. Unlike Karl Marx, he did not found a global movement or inspire revolutions. Unlike Friedrich Hayek, he did not rewrite the economic rules of the modern world. Kohr was a modest, self-deprecating man, but this was not the reason his ideas have been ignored by movers and shakers in the half-century since they were produced. They have been ignored because they do not flatter the egos of the power-hungry, be they revolutionaries or plutocrats. In fact, Kohr’s message is a direct challenge to them. “Wherever something is wrong,” he insisted, “something is too big.”

Kohr, unlike some of his utopian critics, never confused a desire for radical change with the likelihood of it actually happening. Instead, his downbeat but refreshingly honest conclusion was that, like a dying star, the gigantist global system would in the end fall in on itself, and the whole cycle of growth would begin all over again. But before it did so, “between the intellectual ice ages of great-power domination,” the world would become “little and free once more.”
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Paul Kingsnorth: We Got Too Big for the World (Original Post) The_jackalope Aug 2017 OP
interesting points he makes. Canoe52 Aug 2017 #1
Sounds like something bannon would like. AJT Aug 2017 #2
The author is a Brexit man. Voted to leave. bronxiteforever Aug 2017 #3
Thanks for posting bloom Aug 2017 #4

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
1. interesting points he makes.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:01 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Fri Aug 4, 2017, 10:41 AM - Edit history (1)

But after reading the whole article, I disagree with his premise.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
3. The author is a Brexit man. Voted to leave.
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 09:41 AM
Aug 2017

He consistently wails against the global left while yearning for a mystic small world of hobbits. He reminds me of James Kunstler. Kunstler fell off the rails several years ago and now preaches a world made by hand with no liberals around.

"This is the power of the new populists. The likes of Stephen Bannon and Marine Le Pen understand the destructive energy of global capitalism as well as the left does, but they also understand what the left refuses to see: that the heart of the West’s current wound is cultural rather than economic."
Here is another quote:

On 24th June last year I woke up, made a cup of tea and turned on my computer, wondering by what margin the nation had voted to remain in the EU. On the BBC website, the headline seemed to take up the whole screen: BRITAIN VOTES TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION. Five months later, my morning seemed to repeat itself. I woke up again, made another cup of tea, wondered how many votes Clinton had won by, and then gaped at the margins of Trump’s victory. It was clear that the poles were shifting. Something big was going on.

On both occasions I can remember precisely how I felt. It was a feeling that had nothing to do with what might happen next, and it wasn’t really related to my opinions about any of the issues involved. The feeling was exhilaration. I suddenly realised that for the last decade I had believed, even though I had pretended not to believe, in the end of history. Now, the end of history was ending. Change was possible after all."

bloom

(11,635 posts)
4. Thanks for posting
Tue Aug 8, 2017, 08:42 PM
Aug 2017

I basically agree with him. He has respectable credentials.

I think that the only solution is to go local. It's the globalization that is screwing things up - creating the corporations that are taking over countries - as he said. As well as creating the massive inequality. The 'winners' are increasingly without empathy for 'regular' people. etc.

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