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Miguel M

(234 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:24 PM Mar 2019

End Venezuela Sanctions Says Rep. Ro Khanna and 15 Progressive Democrats

End Venezuela Sanctions Says Rep. Ro Khanna and 15 Progressive Democrats

16 progressive members of Congress, sent a letter to the Trump administration, demanding an end to economic sanctions and to military threats against Venezuela. We speak to Rep. Ro Khanna, who led the initiative







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End Venezuela Sanctions Says Rep. Ro Khanna and 15 Progressive Democrats (Original Post) Miguel M Mar 2019 OP
no qazplm135 Mar 2019 #1
So, you support sanctioning all corrupt regimes, I can assume? Miguel M Mar 2019 #2
The worst ones you betcha qazplm135 Mar 2019 #3
Pretty funny. Miguel M Mar 2019 #6
Laughable. GatoGordo Mar 2019 #10
Now that is seriously laughable, and not very observant, imo. Miguel M Mar 2019 #12
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #13
"Most of the region agrees as does most of the world." Ghost Dog Mar 2019 #4
Unless one agrees with Trump, Bolton, Abrams, Otto Reich, etc. w/a history of coups in LatAm Miguel M Mar 2019 #5
It's disgusting knowing Otto Reich, who engaged in illegal propaganda for Reagan, remains: Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #9
He's been organizing training camps. Miguel M Mar 2019 #14
Also was involved in the Chavez coup, and the Haitian coup to overthrow Aristide. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #15
May I kiss you on the lips....... MRubio Mar 2019 #8
Methinks many of these newish posters to the forum are Podemos types. GatoGordo Mar 2019 #11
K&R 2naSalit Mar 2019 #7

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
1. no
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Mar 2019

Venezuela is a corrupt regime. Certainly shouldn't be any military threats against them, but sanctions are just fine. Most of the region agrees as does most of the world.

Not everything is "American imperialism."

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
2. So, you support sanctioning all corrupt regimes, I can assume?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:34 PM
Mar 2019

Should the USA self-sanction for it's corrupt regime ... by re-electing tRump?


qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. The worst ones you betcha
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:40 PM
Mar 2019

We should defeat Trump of course, just like Venezuela should get rid of Maduro.

The difference is, our entire country isn't starving, and we don't have armed groups of Trump supporters roaming the streets harassing folks everywhere, and we have a free press, and a free opposition, and groceries with food, and you know, all that sorta stuff. We don't have millions of refugees in Canada and Mexico.

But hey, you keep on propping up the Maduro regime. You keep doing you.

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
6. Pretty funny.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:25 PM
Mar 2019

I've not posted one word supporting the Maduro regime.
I do, however, post from a position of non-interventionism.
We don't like Russia/Putin interfering in our election/electoral politics, then how can you possibly support the US doing exactly that in/to Venezuela?
The height of hypocrisy.


 

GatoGordo

(2,412 posts)
10. Laughable.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:10 PM
Mar 2019

You may be savvy enough to not to support Maduro by name. However, you can't help but sputter nothing but bile for anything OTHER than the Stalinists in Caracas.

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
12. Now that is seriously laughable, and not very observant, imo.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019


I don't support US interventionism in Venezuela, just like I don't support Russian interventionism here.

I don't support those who are traitorous enough to support foreign intervention in their own country. I don't support the traitorous Trump crew who enabled Russia interfere here, just like I don't support Guaido's traitorous support for foreign intervention in Venezuela.

Response to Miguel M (Reply #12)

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
4. "Most of the region agrees as does most of the world."
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:05 PM
Mar 2019

Really? Do you have any evidence for this?

Or is this just regurgitated imperialist propaganda?

Hint: Just because a minority of countries' governments cravenly toe the imperial line, doesn't mean the people do.

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
9. It's disgusting knowing Otto Reich, who engaged in illegal propaganda for Reagan, remains:
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:50 PM
Mar 2019

JUNE 8, 2001
The Return of Otto Reich
JEFF COHEN

In totalitarian countries, government propaganda officers wield great power. They’re authorized to use the media to stir up state-sanctioned passions and fears through the selective dissemination of information — sometimes factual, sometimes phony.

If you think the United States has never employed propaganda officers, meet Otto Reich. He may soon be our country’s chief diplomat in Latin America if the Bush administration has its way.

In March, Bush announced his intention to nominate Reich as assistant secretary of state for the Western Hemisphere. If he’s officially nominated, it will be interesting to see how journalists handle Reich — because from 1983 through 1986, it was Reich’s job to handle journalists. That’s when he commanded the State Department’s Office of Public Diplomacy, whose main mission was to inflame fears about Nicaragua and its left-wing Sandinista government that had come to power by overthrowing a corrupt, U.S.-supported dictator.

By covertly disseminating intelligence leaks to journalists, Reich and the OPD sought to trump up a Nicaraguan “threat,” and to sanctify the U.S.-backed Contra guerrillas fighting Nicaragua’s government as “freedom fighters.” The propaganda was aimed at influencing Congress to continue to fund the Contras.

More:
https://fair.org/article/the-return-of-otto-reich/

You may remember that When Bush tried to ram Reich down the Senate's throats, they didn't go for it, and Bush had to get his way by slipping Reich into place through a recess appointment. That showed 'em.

And he is still engaged in LatAm relations even now, a nasty guy who will not go away.

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
15. Also was involved in the Chavez coup, and the Haitian coup to overthrow Aristide.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:41 PM
Mar 2019

Had not heard about Organización 2007.

Looks as if this criminal has been keeping busy, doesn't it?

Thanks for the info. I'm sure I'll find out more about the training camp, etc. when the crisis levels out and there are fewer distractions.

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