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Related: About this forumEnd of the line for free speech in Venezuela
Yell at a PSUV party apparatchik? 25 years in prison!
Don't give the Chavistas the amount of time they desire on YOUR TV or radio program? You lose your license to operate.
Social media? Soon to be blocked.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Maduro's Law on Peaceful Coexistence and Against Intolerance
(link below, in Spanish)
https://laradiodelsur.com.ve/2017/08/22/ley-de-convivencia-pacifica-y-contra-la-intolerancia-regulara-campanas-de-odio-promovidos-en-medios-digitales/
Radio del Sur is the party mouthpiece. (Please note prominent displays of El Finado)
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)The long-suffering people of Venezuela are entering into a night of repression and hardship that even they can't yet imagine.
pretzel4gore
(8,146 posts)most reasonable people dislike fascism because it has wrecked the whole planet....and despite fact most voters are rightwing, the world over, the horrors of fascism still terrify hundreds of millions daily....remember Allende and the crimes committed so US mining companies could continue rip off the people of Chile? All the lies on earth cannot hide the fact We (the democratic west lol) is fascistic, as brutish as the natso's were...
>It seems you guys don't know that the fascists who've run the world for decades HATE YOUR GUTS!
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)Please, elucidate!
Let the poor and elderly starve?
Let the babies waste away?
Let the injured and sick die from easily preventable disease?
"Let them eat cake?"
OBenario4
(252 posts)... before the election of Chávez?
As far as I remember, Venezuelans were already poor and starving by then.
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)Prior to Chavez, Venezuela had a thriving working and middle class. A highly educated population. Literacy approaching 100%. They were the envy of South America. The did, like every other SA country, have a large poor population who lived in squalor (about 20%). Chavez swept into power not by extolling the virtues of Karl Marx, but a populist agenda. (dare I say, with Trump-esque rhetoric?) Now, after nearly 20 years of Chavismo, poverty affects over 80% of the population.
Kids don't go to school, because their teachers are waiting in line to buy bread and meat. Parents don't eat, so that their children have enough to eat. Stillbirths at an all time high. (the bureaucrat who released that data was sacked)
Squalor in most clinics and hospitals. No sterile bandages or sutures. No aspirin. No insulin, no HIV drugs, no chemotherapy, only a few X-ray machines are operational in the whole country, and only emergency surgery. Patients are told to find their own medications, including anesthetics.
How is this better than before Chavez? Since Chavez, the bolivar has devalued... 3 million percent.
Have you ever been to Venezuela? I have a large extended family there.
OBenario4
(252 posts)And, yes, I have traveled to Venezuela.
Never heard any person calling Venezuela "the envy of South America" prior to Chavez' election.
GatoGordo
(2,412 posts)EOM
OBenario4
(252 posts)Marksman_91
(2,035 posts)And I can tell you from my own personal experience as well as what I keep getting from news sources there on a daily basis from all sides, right now it's a worse shithole than during its worst period in history. The current Chavista regime easily takes the cake as the most awful chapter in Venezuela's history.
Please tell me how your input has any more validation.
pretzel4gore
(8,146 posts)mouth spouting this 'mooo mooo mooos!' noise
and winning the war for hearts&mines the way white guys have allays done, by persistence and the can-do spirit.
fascism won long ago (why are we sweating the small stuff?)