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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:25 PM Mar 2016

Is This the Real Reason Hillary Clinton Isn't a "Natural Politician"?

Maybe the problem isn't that Clinton lacks the abilities of a natural politician, but that we associate being a "natural politician" more readily in men.

Source: Cosmopolitan by Jill Filipovic

Name American history's greatest, most natural, gifted politicians: LBJ. JFK. RFK. Bill Clinton. Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan.

What do they have in common (other than the three-initial thing)? They're all men.

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Qualities we associate with leadership – assertiveness, confidence, competitiveness – are also qualities for which we reward men and punish women. Bill Clinton, it's often said after any event at which he appeared, "owned the room": He's warm and personable, but also assertive, charismatic, and the center of attention. As one of the most brilliant and skilled presidents in American history, Bill Clinton has earned that confidence. But compare him to George W. Bush, another American president not exactly known for his intellectual prowess or political skill, but still "a guy I'd like to have a beer with" according to a significant number of American voters. Bush, too, exuded confidence. And many studies have shown that confidence, especially among men, is often mistaken for competence. Over-confidence, which often presents as I-know-it-when-I-see-it descriptors like "charisma" or "charm," is more present in men than women. It's why "Lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre white man" is combination funny/sad: Many women see just how far our middling male peers get on the fumes of self-assurance alone.

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People who believe they and they alone are the best suited of the 318.9 million people who live in the United States to be the nation's president share a few characteristics: Self-assuredness bordering on pathology; a desire for power and status; a hunger for admiration and approval. They are not lacking in confidence, but they are surely not your average human creatures. They are, in short, politicians, where everything, including perceived authenticity, is carefully calculated and cultivated. We need to care less about who does the best job at convincing us they're genuine and whose political skills seem the most natural, and instead ask whether they're competent, experienced, skilled, promoting policies with which we agree, and able to accomplish their proposed agenda. If that were the standard for male and female politicians alike, we might just see more women in elected office, leading us in all their stilted, robotic, witchy, bitchy, unnatural, unapologetically ambitious glory.

Read it all at: http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a55104/hillary-clinton-natural-politician/


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Is This the Real Reason Hillary Clinton Isn't a "Natural Politician"? (Original Post) yallerdawg Mar 2016 OP
Hillary is one to brag, as far as qualifications she is much superior to any of the other Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #1
She doesn't have to be a natural politician 6chars Mar 2016 #2
As Melissa McEwan argued when discussing Clinton's statement, KitSileya Mar 2016 #3
She definitely is not... yallerdawg Mar 2016 #4
She's not a natural politician SharonClark Mar 2016 #5

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Hillary is one to brag, as far as qualifications she is much superior to any of the other
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

candidates running at this time. She has to knowledge of so many issues and a command to voice the knowledge of the issues. This my friends, is a politician. In fact her ability to share her knowledge is much better than others mentioned here.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
2. She doesn't have to be a natural politician
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:41 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think she herself would say that is her strong suit. Running for office is a lot different than being in office, being on top of the details, making the right calls, having the spine. Totally different skills. Take GW Bush, for example (please!) Really, the skill of being a natural politician is a kind of frivolous thing, and I think Hillary, being a serious person, gets this. George HW Bush (Poppy) was not a natural politician and had a distaste for getting out there on the campaign trail and saying whatever it was he had to say to get elected (once, lol).

If she is an ok politician and great in office, that would be fine with me.



KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
3. As Melissa McEwan argued when discussing Clinton's statement,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

It's more likely that she is not a "traditional politician" than that she's not a "natural politician". Who says that being able to hold grand speeches is more natural than being able to connect with people in small groups? Who says that being willing to condemn tens of thousands to unemployment because you don't like part of a bill is more natural than being able to work out a compromise with the other side?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. She definitely is not...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:16 PM
Mar 2016

the "traditional politician."

She is again one step away from going where no woman has gone before, and then one more step from changing things forever.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
5. She's not a natural politician
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:25 AM
Mar 2016

She's not silver tongued and seems a bit uncomfortable in large crowds but she's the only candidate who listens and empathizes. She's the only candidate who can actually manage and govern.

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