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Cha

(296,700 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:13 AM Feb 2016

New poll shows that Black voters really aren’t ‘Feeling the Bern’



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For example, much has been made of Sanders’s popularity with younger voters, and Clinton’s struggles to connect with millennials. Among black voters age 18-29, the gap between Sanders and Clinton is indeed narrower. But younger black voters still rate Clinton more favorably than Sanders:

Perhaps most troublesome for Sanders, however, is the ambivalence toward him expressed by black women. Black women comprise a disproportionate segment of the black electorate — due in part to laws in some states preventing ex-felons, many of them black men, from voting.

According to the U.S. Census, turnout among black women in 2012 was almost nine percentage points higher than turnout among black men — a gender gap larger than the gender gap among Hispanics, Asians, and non-Hispanic whites. Moreover, black women tend to vote for Democrats at even higher rates than black men.

In other words, a Democratic victory in the general election requires enthusiastic support from black women, and black women are significantly more enthusiastic about Clinton than Sanders.

MOre~https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/02/18/new-poll-shows-that-black-voters-really-arent-feeling-the-bern/

Excellent!

Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record

According to CNN exit polls, 93% of African-Americans, 71% of Hispanics and 73% of Asians supported Obama over Romney.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/09/blacks-outvoted-whites-in-2012-the-first-time-on-record/

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New poll shows that Black voters really aren’t ‘Feeling the Bern’ (Original Post) Cha Feb 2016 OP
And I never will bravenak Feb 2016 #1
And, I love you and all the African American Community who are way too Cha Feb 2016 #2
We love you too and are not feeling this at ALL bravenak Feb 2016 #3
Like a 180 degrees! Cha Feb 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author JRLeft Feb 2016 #7
P. S. you saw Blacks Outvoted Whites in 2012.. Wow.. Cha Feb 2016 #4
And black WOMEN most of all bravenak Feb 2016 #5
51 times! I know Black Women are the highest percentage of Voters.. reading that last Cha Feb 2016 #8
The outreach is rude bravenak Feb 2016 #10
Yes, killer mike and cornel west come to mind. Cha Feb 2016 #11
And the spamming of us on social media bravenak Feb 2016 #12
Yeah, that always works.. these Black Women certainly aren't buyin it.. Cha Feb 2016 #14
Those who ignore the power of black women brer cat Feb 2016 #38
Thank you Cha! Happy Nevada Primary Day! Lucinda Feb 2016 #9
You're Welcome, Luncinda.. Happy Nevada Primary Day to you, too! Cha Feb 2016 #15
Such a great video too! Lucinda Feb 2016 #16
Compelling! i just saw you were on that thread when I kicked it.. Cha Feb 2016 #17
Yawp. I keep popping in and out today. So much going on! Lucinda Feb 2016 #18
I so hope you start feeling better.. awful when we don't feel our best. Cha Feb 2016 #20
Thank you Cha! It's is sort of a chronic thing. Lucinda Feb 2016 #22
Yeah! shenmue Feb 2016 #13
Mahalo, shenmue! Cha Feb 2016 #23
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #19
Mahalo SunSeeker~ Cha Feb 2016 #25
Well, this "black voter" would seek medical attention for any kind of "bern". Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #21
POTUS is POTUS but he's also one of those brilliant Black Voters and I know Cha Feb 2016 #26
All the pander and they still don't feel the bern, Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #24
Killermike & Cornel West havn't been helpful in their outreach to Black Voters from Cha Feb 2016 #31
Some just don't fall for bs, doesn't matter who is selling. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #32
Chasing any electorate as an afterthought Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #27
Excellent point, Ellen.. Thank you! Cha Feb 2016 #34
K&R! DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #28
Mahalo, DemonGoddess! Cha Feb 2016 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #29
No we aren't Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #30
Those post sound to me like they are saying "You owe him". When you do something, you do it because lunamagica Feb 2016 #35
Excellent point, Coolest.. "their constant lack of reason.." Cha Feb 2016 #41
I am not impressed with this "indie creds" approach to politics. Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #46
You sound a bit like me... Treant Feb 2016 #48
Very true Cha! It is good to see that black millenials are more realistic than their white peers lunamagica Feb 2016 #33
Yes, it good to see when somebody deals in reality. and it makes perfect sense Cha Feb 2016 #42
About time too. Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #47
Thanks for posting Gothmog Feb 2016 #36
You're Welcome and Thank you, Goth Cha Feb 2016 #43
The most progressive voters aren't feeling the Bern. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #39
They're brilliant .. why would they want to get berned?! Cha Feb 2016 #44
For a while, Treant Feb 2016 #49
Nah, we aren't. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #51
Excellent! mcar Feb 2016 #40
Can't force feed .. just doesn't work. Cha Feb 2016 #45
Not surprising. ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #50
The fast talk express is going to be derail in the next few weeks. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #52

Cha

(296,700 posts)
2. And, I love you and all the African American Community who are way too
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

smart.. you won't be bamboozled to borrow President Obama's word on his campaign trails.

Mahalo, brave

Response to bravenak (Reply #3)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. And black WOMEN most of all
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:26 AM
Feb 2016

I wonder if Bernie knows, with his "I SAID BLACK FIFTY TIMES!!' Self

Cha

(296,700 posts)
8. 51 times! I know Black Women are the highest percentage of Voters.. reading that last
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 02:39 AM
Feb 2016

night my heart was going out to you all!

They're not impressed by the "outreach".. I can't imagine why. I could count the ways but I know I'm being lurked right now and they wouldn't like it at all.

Cha

(296,700 posts)
14. Yeah, that always works.. these Black Women certainly aren't buyin it..
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:01 AM
Feb 2016
Angela Bassett Tweet~

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110744104#top

Clinton Gains Support From 170 African American Women Leaders

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110742047

So brilliant.

brer cat

(24,504 posts)
38. Those who ignore the power of black women
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:56 AM
Feb 2016

are not just unenlightened, but are suffering from head-up-ass disease which may become terminal before they recognize it.

Cha

(296,700 posts)
15. You're Welcome, Luncinda.. Happy Nevada Primary Day to you, too!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:12 AM
Feb 2016

And, to us all!

Love the Black Folk.. they are so beautiful!

Long Lines for Black Voters in Battleground Virginia



http://politic365.com/2012/11/06/long-lines-for-black-voters-in-battleground-virginia/

Hillary Clinton has one of the best platforms to protect voting rights that I have seen



http://www.democraticunderground.com/110750108

Cha

(296,700 posts)
17. Compelling! i just saw you were on that thread when I kicked it..
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

you know all about how great it is.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
18. Yawp. I keep popping in and out today. So much going on!
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:33 AM
Feb 2016

Not a good day for me health-wise, but I can't stay away this close to another primary!



Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
22. Thank you Cha! It's is sort of a chronic thing.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:40 AM
Feb 2016

I have good days and bad days, but I stay pretty happy in spite of it all.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
21. Well, this "black voter" would seek medical attention for any kind of "bern".
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 04:29 AM
Feb 2016

And I think my POTUS would agree.

Cha

(296,700 posts)
26. POTUS is POTUS but he's also one of those brilliant Black Voters and I know
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 06:33 AM
Feb 2016

who he's voting for.

Mahalo, Tarheel!

Cha

(296,700 posts)
31. Killermike & Cornel West havn't been helpful in their outreach to Black Voters from
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:13 AM
Feb 2016

all the posts and tweets I've read, Thinkingabout.

Thank you!

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
27. Chasing any electorate as an afterthought
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 07:19 AM
Feb 2016

is a surefire way to lose them fast. The Clintons have been building relationships for decades. Not so much Bernie.

Response to Cha (Original post)

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
30. No we aren't
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:08 AM
Feb 2016

and quite frankly we are getting tired at Sanders supporters telling us that hey you should vote for him because he marched with Dr. King. I usually respond that was 48 years ago, what has he done for my community since then? Then they go to, he marched with Dr. Lewis. I'm like okay but that still does not explain to me what he has done for my community.

Then they go to he going to get us all free stuff. Then I ask them how are you going to get it through a republican controlled congress. Dead silence, nothing but dead silence. Then they come back and say he's fighting for our issues.

To which I reply do you understand that as a black man, your issues that you are voting for is not the same as the issues that I am voting for. I try to explain to them that they never have to worry about cops profiling them. I try to tell them that they never have to worry about being stopped and then frisked like we are. I explain to them that they never have to live in a community where the water is poisoned. I also explain to them that no one is trying to suppress your vote. They always come back to the economic crap which I could not care less about right now.

They wonder why so many of us get frustrated at their constant lack of reason. I just don't even engage them any more. I know they go back and tell their fellow supporters what I say because moments later, I see new Bernie people come into my comments trying their little hearts out to convince me I'm on the wrong side. Sometimes they will get a young POC to make their argument. I go on that person's page and I see that it was just created in the last few months so most of the time I don't know if that POC is real or someone white pretending to be black.

I will be glad when the primaries are over and Hillary is our nominee.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
35. Those post sound to me like they are saying "You owe him". When you do something, you do it because
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

it is the right thing to do, not expecting anything in return.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
46. I am not impressed with this "indie creds" approach to politics.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

involvement in a movement 50 years ago, while great and important, is not the same as building a political presence over time: *Show up, stump, raise money, shake hands, eat hots dogs off paper plates, repeat from * . Hillary has done that and Bernie has not. The simple fact that she is raising money for downticket races along with her own, while Bernie is not, speaks volumes.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
48. You sound a bit like me...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 12:59 PM
Feb 2016

...on an analogous issue. I tend to prioritize LBGT support...and only one candidate has spoken strongly about it in an Administrative position, mentions the community frequently in her speeches, and didn't weasel word her way out of actually evolving and changing her mind.

As the leader of the Executive Branch, President H. Clinton won't be creating any legislation, but she sets the nation's tone. And so far, she's done a very good job at that in her campaign.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
33. Very true Cha! It is good to see that black millenials are more realistic than their white peers
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:10 AM
Feb 2016

and are able to see the multiple holes in the promises made by Sanders.

And black women? What a great force. It's good to see them being so powerful in deciding who will lead the nation!

Cha

(296,700 posts)
42. Yes, it good to see when somebody deals in reality. and it makes perfect sense
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

that it would be Black millennials.

It's no coincidence that there are going to be 170 Black Women Leaders going down to South Carolina to knock on doors and make phone calls for Hillary, lunamagica.

Clinton Gains Support From 170 African American Women Leaders

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110742047

Treant

(1,968 posts)
49. For a while,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:01 PM
Feb 2016

I wondered what was wrong with myself and if I had to redefine myself as a moderate Democrat since I supported Clinton over Sanders.

Then I woke up and realized it wasn't the message (Sanders does have a nice message on things that should be done). It's the reality of the situation--and the fact that I strongly prefer substance over...well, you can't call what he does "style." Let's just say "message."

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
51. Nah, we aren't.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

It's more a question of seeing who the real enemy is. Some folks out there want to damage the Obama coalition because they think that is the threat to their privilege.

Most of us for Clinton seemed to be more alarmed by the right-wing taking control of the White House.

That's my observation, anyway. And is it really a "revolution" if the only people showing up are from one demographic? And the unions aren't feeling it either?

ismnotwasm

(41,952 posts)
50. Not surprising.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:49 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders has some support of course, and that is enough for his campaign apparently. Reaching out and listening to the AA community doesn't fit the campaign's "economic justice" narrative, for obvious reasons. While the part of me that is a Hill supporter is a bit gleeful--I believe this is a huge mistake on the part of Sanders campaign--I would rather both our major candidates make a strong effort to listen to AA's and PoC and address concerns. O'Malley had an excellent, excellent-platform, I still hope to see him involved in Hillary's presidency

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
52. The fast talk express is going to be derail in the next few weeks.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016

Fact: Bill lost the first few states in 1992 only to rack up win after win starting on Super Tuesday.

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