When someone posts something to the effect, "Hillary couldn't even beat the black guy",

[still_one]

there is a real problem going on here.

It is a racist post. Period.

To people who have that same mind set, IT IS PRESIDENT OBAMA, NOT "the black guy".

With regards to posts like this, to paraphrase the words of Susan Sarandon, fuckem

and some people wonder why Sanders has an issue with certain demographics

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. It is racist and sexist...

[still_one]

2. yes it is

[JI7]

3. link ?

[still_one]

4. Are you a Hillary supporter? Because I cannot respond in the thread where it occurred

[JI7]

5. no, but i don't hate her either

can you pm me ? i saw this before but could not find anything on it

[Agnosticsherbet]

57. Hereis a link. I used Google Sit Search...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511099138

[Cha]

6. It's disheartening but totally expected. President Barack Obama chose Hillary to be his SOS

They came to work together for the greater good of the country after he won.. the President is really fond of Hillary. And, they can't stand that.

That's what happens when we're working for something bigger than ourselves. That totally eludes them.

Obama: Making Hillary Clinton secretary of State one of my ‘best decisions’

Asking Hillary Clinton to serve as secretary of State was "one of the best decisions I ever made as president," President Obama told philanthropists and donors gathered Tuesday at the Clinton Global Initiative meeting in New York City.

The president showered the former first lady — and front-runner for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination — with praise, saying he "will always be grateful for her extraordinary leadership."

Obama went on to joke that he still had "a lot of debt to pay" because of the miles Clinton traveled when in his administration. But he also praised the former New York senator for her "post-administration glow."
"She looks much more rested," Obama said to laughter.

MOre~
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/218666-obama-making-hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state-one-of-my-best



Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves behind enormous 20-year legacy with exit from office following start of President Obama's second term

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/obama-new-term-hillary-clinton-leaves-20-year-political-legacy-article-1.1244485

I admire Hillary so much for her answer to President Obama's call to service. They started working together for the good of the country and our Planet. Not stuck in the past like so many people who only want to go on and on about it.

Evidently they've remained good friends.. and I couldn't be happier.

Michelle says it best..



Thank you for this, stillone. it saddens me that it's on this board and not freepville.. but, like I said.. it's expected with the caliber of posts that have come down the pike, which seems like forever now.

[still_one]

7. yes he did, and they are a great team

[brer cat]

24. Great post, Cha.

"The president showered the former first lady — and front-runner for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination — with praise, saying he 'will always be grateful for her extraordinary leadership.'"

[Cha]

32. Thank you, brer cat!

So exceptional... former rivals working so well together to make sure our country doesn't fall into the hands of fascist blowhards.

[brer cat]

34. The adults in the room...

putting aside their differences to work for the good of the country. That is lost on the republicans and sadly some democrats as well.

[Cha]

37. And, the

SMARTEST!

[Iliyah]

8. UGH

The fact that they refuse to give President Obama no respect is very telling.

[FrenchieCat]

9. They never did....

That's why I left DU!

fuckem

[Surya Gayatri]

10. FYI, Frenchie. They're gunning for you. Watch your back.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:37 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

They never did....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=38889

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

No comments added by alerter

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:45 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There is not offensive here. The alert is taken out of context if the alerter had bothered to read the whole thread. FrenchieCat is quoting the OP and responding to a sentiment shared with others in the thread. Nothing offensive at all.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The entire thread is offensive, including the post in question-- which implies that Bernie supporters are racist and disrespectful to President Obama... all without a shred of evidence.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert. This alerter should be banned.
AN OP at the top of the Greatest Page, with the headline "FUCK THEM!", has obviously inspired this post. The f-word passes for civil discourse on DU these days.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Cha]

11. "Ridiculous alert. This alerter should be banned. AN OP at the top of the Greatest Page, with the

headline "FUCK THEM!", has obviously inspired this post. The f-word passes for civil discourse on DU these days."

For the alerter..

Mahalo Surya!

[Surya Gayatri]

12. You found me out, Cha! I was juror #6...ridiculous indeed.

[Cha]

13. I just liked it!.. they can say anything they want but if there's a little

"fuckem" in Hill's Group then it's all Over.. "LET'S CENSOR!" "LET's ALERT! & CENSOR!"

[72DejaVu]

22. Wen Bernie says he will get his policies enacted by going to the people

These people, and these tactics, are what he's talking about.

[Cha]

23. Of course.. it's working so well for him now.

NurseJackie~

[NurseJackie]

30. :-) <3

[Cha]

33. lol!

Thank you! I love my little pie in the sky~

[brer cat]

35. Thank you, Surya Gayatri!!

Well put, very well put indeed.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. Just trying to level the playing field on DU. Unlike in the real world, things here are

shamefully tilted towards the BS camp.

They swarm the Greatest Page like a cloud of locusts and have perverted the jury system beyond redemption.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Ha ha!

That's the only reason I even used that term, cause it's on the greatest page! Figured it must be OK!

[Surya Gayatri]

15. Double standards, a prerequisite for being a "BS supporter".

[FrenchieCat]

17. That's the kind of politics

We're supposed to make
Extinct, last I checked! That's exactly the problem Republicans have! They can lie, even on a public stage, but no one else is allowed to do rhe same, nor are they even corrected!

[Cha]

16. Now you got it.. it OK for them but not for you.

Too bad they lost.

[Rose Siding]

55. Guess it's only ok if

it's a Naderite saying it to Democrats. Here on Democratic Underground. I know

[still_one]

20. Interesting. In certain circles, where Hillary supporters can't post, they have

multiple threads using the words of Susan Sarandon to direct the same word at, guess who?

However, that isn't even the worst part. The worst part is the racist comment the OP referred to in this thread.

[Surya Gayatri]

29. I was summarily banned from the BS group for pointing out in that

"FUCK THEM" OP, that Sarandon's political instincts are not of the highest order.

Sorry, but F-YOU is not a valid argument for or against anything.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104210#post57

[Coolest Ranger]

18. Personally I don't care if they do think that way

I am still going to vote for them just to say screw you to them for the way they been treating us. They may get large crowds at his gathering but large crowds does not translate into vote. Harassing those of us who support Sister Clinton on social media does not translate to votes. They are going to be in for a world of hurt after she secures the nomination. This e-mail crap they keep posting, will not change my mind especially when Colin Powell and several republicans do the same thing. I AM NOT IMPRESSED and I will be voting for her on March 15

[still_one]

21. Your right. The tactic of hurtling insults at Hillary supporters, sure doesn't seem

like the best approach to persuade someone to embrace their candidate

[Anfibio]

19. Very true

There is no need for that.

[Nonhlanhla]

25. Well, "the black guy"...

...happens to be one of the most intelligent, charismatic, thoughtful, and genuinely nice individuals to ever run for the presidency. A true once-in-a-lifetime candidate. Hillary still got really close to beating him, so she did not exactly do badly.

For the record, I was an ardent Obama supporter in 2008. I now wholeheartedly support Hillary. I knew that a lot of the people who have displayed racist attitudes towards our president, would now display sexist attitudes towards our next president. I'm afraid we're in for a rough ride.

[still_one]

26. Yes he is, and one of the best presidents we have had

[Cha]

41. Same here, NOnhlanhla~

[Lisa D]

53. +1

[romana]

27. I was on the jury

I was on the jury for the original alert, and was the only one who voted to hide that garbage. PM me if you'd like the link. Or I can post the jury results here. I know people do, but I never have.

[still_one]

28. Thank you for voting to hide it

[romana]

31. Honestly

I very nearly closed out DU and vowed never to come back when I saw the results. Where are the admins? I feel abandoned and that was shameful. I will never give this site money again unless crap like that gets addressed from the top. Their jury system is broken.

[still_one]

36. I agree. Things like this really need to be addressed and fixed

[Walk away]

40. I stopped my automatic donation the week someone called the POTUS...

a used car salesman.

[yardwork]

51. I would be interested to see the jury results.

I'm wondering if the votes to leave offered any rationalization to leave such a blatantly racist post

[Walk away]

39. Welcome to the New DU!

Isn't it a horrid little place???

[stonecutter357]

42. K&R!

[Ana Hauhet]

43. salon.com comments!?

They just up and call her "a hag". They don't even try to cover their hate filled sexism towards her! So disrespectful. They don't realize that they are representing Bernie who would never say something like that.

[mcar]

44. I cannot believe that post wasn't hidden

and the poster PPRd. Even on today's DU. SMH

[romana]

45. Here were the results of the jury.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:22 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary couldn't even beat the black guy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104569

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"Couldn't even beat the black guy." This is racist.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jan 30, 2016, 05:30 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Looking at jomin's profile, I don't think he is a racist.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think its supposed to more ironic than racist. A lot of people thought, and still do, that there are a lot of Democrats who wouldn't support Obama because he was Black. I'd rather see people talk to this new DU member about how his word choice might be offensive to some people.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh!
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: How can someone grasp at straws while clutching their pearls? Better pull out the fainting couch and call the Waaaaambulance.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agreed, the post is racist.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[mcar]

46. Six DUers voted to leave that?

Do the admins need any more proof that the jury system is broken? This is ridiculous!

Thanks for posting the results, romana.

[romana]

48. Yep

I was #7. I almost threw up when I got the results back. I couldn't believe it.

[mcar]

49. Thanks for standing up!

That is nauseating.

[Rose Siding]

56. I fret about trying to be gracious when BS loses, then see crap like that

Ironic racism? Hey jury dude, that's not a thing.

[Surya Gayatri]

58. Thanks for your principled stand, romana. Un-frigging believable!

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That racist shite was allowed to stand by 6-1.

Speaks volumes about the Berniebot hijacking of DU.

[NurseJackie]

47. It certainly is disappointing to see what some people can get away with.

But, with luck, those days will soon be over.

[pandr32]

50. Racism and sexism abound unfortunately

It hardly seems like a "democratic" site to visit because democracy is about community and diversity, and equality. Without equal representation we do not have a real democracy.

[treestar]

52. I cannot believe it was not hidden!

[George II]

54. Beyond the racism, it's also disrespectful to the Office of President of the United States....

.....and personally offensive.