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Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:07 PM

@BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress (Hillary Grp)

Sanders just made up that scene.....


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That "naive" President
-Got 16million people healthcare
-Averted economic depression
-Saved the auto industry
GTFO

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.@BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress http://politi.co/1MEErNe | Getty


.............Sanders said that after a “brilliant campaign” Obama made a mistake by expecting that he could easily negotiate with the other party.

“He thought he could walk into Capitol Hill and the Oval Office and sit down with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell and the Republicans and say, ‘I can’t get it all. You can’t get it all. Let’s work out something that’s reasonable,’ because he’s a reasonable guy. He’s a pretty rational guy,” Sanders said. “These guys never had any intention of doing [serious] negotiating and compromising … I think it took the president too long to fully appreciate that.”

But Sanders didn't have a firm answer for how he would more successfully broker deals, saying the only way things will actually get done with a divided Congress is if the general population stays engaged in the political process and demand it.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bernie-sanders-naive-obama-214222#ixzz3nBF21QzI

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Reply @BernieSanders: I won't be as naïve as Obama was with Congress (Hillary Grp) (Original post)
riversedge Sep 2015 OP
Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #1
riversedge Sep 2015 #2
Cha Sep 2015 #14
Snap the Turtle Sep 2015 #3
Cha Sep 2015 #9
FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #16
msrizzo Sep 2015 #19
treestar Oct 2015 #28
postatomic Sep 2015 #4
riversedge Sep 2015 #5
postatomic Sep 2015 #6
riversedge Sep 2015 #8
postatomic Sep 2015 #11
upaloopa Oct 2015 #27
Cha Sep 2015 #10
Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #7
Cha Sep 2015 #12
Cha Sep 2015 #13
Cha Sep 2015 #15
FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #17
Cha Sep 2015 #18
Rose Siding Sep 2015 #20
BooScout Sep 2015 #21
Cha Sep 2015 #22
ellisonz Oct 2015 #26
Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #23
ellisonz Oct 2015 #24
ellisonz Oct 2015 #25

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:09 PM

1. This seems to be a pattern, a needless pattern.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:18 PM

2. I edited my OP because

I read the article more thoroughly--and do not find the word 'naive' ---but in reading what Sanders said, it certainly is appropriate.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:56 PM

14. Yes, and it shows me how shallow he is.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:19 PM

3. Bernie is correct.

 

Obama assumed the Republicans would be amenable to him in Congress. Never was the case - and he learned the lesson the hard way.

Bernie knows exactly what he will face with Republicans in Congress (assuming the Democrats hasn't at least retaken one of the chambers or both via Bernie's coattails), and will be prepared, if necessary. Bernie will find a way to get the job done: Bernie has always added many amendments to benefit the people to many bills. That is one of Bernie's hidden talents that the M$M doesn't even mention or the Clinton supporters acknowledge - he gets things done.

I hope and pray Clinton can find success with the hurdle she does face if she is the President.

Good luck!

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Response to Snap the Turtle (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:37 PM

9. Bernie is wrong.. and he gets nothing done. He also Lies about President Obama and it's documented

right here.

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Response to Snap the Turtle (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:01 AM

16. Bernie won't be able to move much in congress

His political revolution will be short lived

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:49 AM

19. Call me a cynic...

....but I can't take it on faith that Sanders will be more effective with Congress than he was as an actual member of both houses for many, many years.

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Response to Snap the Turtle (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:10 PM

28. "will find a way" like what?

Is this some miracle? They aren't going to roll over for him, either.

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Response to postatomic (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:52 PM

5. And I have seen

many Sander supporters support this idea. I think we would have to have massive Vietnam era marches to perhaps get done the things he wants to pass in Congress. IMHO

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Response to postatomic (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:24 PM

8. I was too young but I do read history.

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Response to postatomic (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:33 PM

27. People were motivated during Vietnam war

because they didn't want to get their ass shot off.
Look at WI and KS and NC. People are getting kicked in the teeth daily yet they vote their tormentors back into office.
The people won't rise up. The best they can do is vote for Bernie because he is going to change everything. And Bernie says the people will change everything. When in actuality none of them will ever change shit!

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Response to postatomic (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:39 PM

10. He's already thrown President Obama "under the bus" right here and when he wanted

him Primaried in 2012.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:22 PM

7. Hahahaha.

He's just been waiting all this time to get started?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:53 PM

12. Right. President Obama has accomplished so much and instead of acknowledging that..

he shoots the breeze about how he could do so much more.. but forgets to mention he hasn't accomplished anything substantial after 25 years in Congress.

I love how he's running against our popular Democratic President. Keep it up, BS.



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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:55 PM

13. I think BS needs to stop trying to spread what was going on in President Obama's mind.. he

sucks at it.

And, he lies about Obama..

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:44 AM

15. A lot of negative feedback on Twiiter regarding that statement from BS, riversedge.

I love it!

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:05 AM

17. Right you are cha!

Way to get the party behind him putting down the president.
Can you imagine if this was said against him! His supporters brains would explode

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Response to FloridaBlues (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:22 AM

18. "Says candidate who constantly makes broad promises that would never make it through Congress."

Adam James Platt ‏@AdamPlatt1999 10h10 hours ago
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Says candidate who constantly makes broad promises that would never make it through Congress.

I cannot wait until President Obama is out there campaigning for Hillary!

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 10:05 AM

20. "But Sanders didn't have a firm answer..."

Exactly. Anyone who gets how govt works in the real world knows that.

A successful President has to be able to, at least beyond media glare, communicate with the opposition realistically.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:16 AM

21. So he doesn't attack fellow candidates...

...just a sitting DEMOCRATIC President, one who is so well liked he was elected twice.

The BS man has a lot of nerve calling Obama naive about Congress considering he himself has not done anything of any substance in the 25 years he's been in Congress.

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Response to BooScout (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:17 PM

22. Right, Boo. BS "won't attack Hillary or O'Malley" but he'll lie about President Obama?!! WTF

is his misbegotten strategy?

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Response to BooScout (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:24 PM

26. He's like your annoying kook uncle who won't be quiet at Thanksgiving.

Ignore the facts, present yourself as the only person capable of knowing the truth.

The truth is that Bernie Sanders is too self-absorbed and that's why as you note he's gotten nothing done.

Obama got a lot done, he's going down as a great president in the history books.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 01:39 PM

23. If he had spent as much time pushing through his progressive legislation as he's spent attacking PBO

I'd have a whole lot more respect for him. BS is widely acclaimed for the crap he says, but on closer inspection, the meager things he's been able to do don't match the hype.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:16 PM

24. Tell me why John Boehner just resigned again...

...oh maybe because he made deals with Obama?1?!?!?

More Silly Sanders Speak

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:18 PM

25. Also, how the heck is he going to get to 70-80% Democratic voters.

I will take my Kool-Aid now

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