Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumDoes the blaming of Black folks never end?
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Look! Look how stupid!
He just goes on and on in the same vein.
I thought it was bad before. It was and it's WORSE.
Everywhere I go, it's the same type of stuff today.
I guess it's all our fault thei guy lost.
Wonder what craziness will result from Hillary winning CA and NJ and DC?
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Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Can we make that into a song!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Thanks brave.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Post Racial! bwahahahaha!
But yeah, this poster is DEFINITELY a racist. What an ass.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... or "Nothing against women, but..." or "some of my best friends are gay..." is probably a racist or misogynist or homophobe.
Alerter: This is my personal opinion based on my personal observations.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)I know what you mean, NurseJackie.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)African American population is actually receiving public assistance.
And a smaller percentage of us are criminals, so we care about more than just the criminal justice system, which is the implication.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JustAnotherGen
(32,025 posts)When you start with - cuts to welfare . . .
You show what you really think of me.
JustAnotherGen
(32,025 posts)The above post was about the asshole BIGOTED RACIST screen shot in the OP .
It had nothing to do with your leader.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Sanders Voted For 1994 Crime Bill; Bragged About It As Late As 2006 [tough on crime]!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110797973
bravenak
(34,648 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)apparently "protection" means women need to be thrown into prison serving mandatory minimums.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Is he employable after that! Full crap!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)johnp3907
(3,735 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)Just look at how many times we get a good discussion going and someone reports the thread and next thing you know the post is locked for no dang reason at all. This site makes me sick to my stomach some days
bravenak
(34,648 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,023 posts)So sick of these racist pricks.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Fucking welfare prison and drugs. Always.
Those things are directly or indirectly in my background, and here's some white privilege--nobody suspects I have anything like what I do in my past. I get kudos for 'overcoming" my er, challenges if I choose to share about them. No one, and I mean no one ever thinks it's some sort of default state.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But none of them are ever one bit sorry for a damn thing they say or do. Let one of us says one thing wrong? They call for all kinds of retribution. Crazy
ismnotwasm
(42,023 posts)I don't know how to explain either, but I don't think people like that want truth. I think they want to be comfortable in self righteousness. I use to have a friend who used to compare that kind of thinking to stepping in fresh dogshit--it's warm and soft and comfortable at first and you don't smell the stink, or realize what you've stepped in until you stir it up.
FAR too many people stay in the warm and soft stage. That doesn't mean it's not racist dogshit.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)not all black folks are on welfare, or live in projects, or the black women's baby daddies are in prison!!! None of that is racist cause they don't see color or they have a black friend!!!!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Between that and the "Dems in Southern states 'r' dumb" routine around here, not much has surprised me.
Well, until Cornel West, though in hindsight, that shouldn't have surprised me because it fits the pattern perfectly.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Now we know. I had no clue I was a confederate until recently. Why I would fight for my incarcerators, I do not know. Must be my stockholm syndrome.
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)As I've said in a few threads now, I sincerely hope that most of these clowns are the Trump trolls that we keep hearing so much about, because the alternative is pretty disturbing.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Came back after eight years. Two of the most obvious when I left were still here and still some of the site's biggest anti-Dems.
Only now, they have 100k and 150k posts.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)to build on what was good about the Clinton years, and ditch the rest. Hillary knows this. Anyone calling for Hillary (who was not President) to be punished for the mass incarceration of the 80's & 90's, either didn't live in the inner city, or they've caught a case of amnesia. When the crack epidemic took hold, it was a horrible time, and rates of black-on-black crime skyrocketed. People were looking for solutions, and the fact that the crime bill had some horrendous unintended consequences cannot be laid at the feet of Hillary Clinton, who was First Lady.
Perhaps black people aren't as "uninformed" as the author would like to think. Maybe black people know that Bernie actually voted for the damn crime bill, and maybe that's why we aren't voting for him in significant numbers.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)than to trust a self righteous person who cannot admit a flaw. All that finger pointing.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)be "holding his feet to the fire" on this issue, but alas.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They can do no wrong.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Hey, Tarheel.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)it's not us who need "educating"...maybe it's the BSers.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)Nobody has that kind of time.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)"Why would I vote for the candidate you support again??"
And then just stop replying.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I hate wasting my precious time. I just flagged it. Mods can delete it. Fuck that guy.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The lack of self-awareness in the movement is sickening. Ignoring and shaming people of color for voting differently isn't progressivism, it's white supremacy.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Which is kinda scary.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)brer cat
(24,646 posts)was as far I as I got reading it. Told me all I need to know.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)We too stupid. Poor guy. Plus, his grammar is deplorable.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)I am frequently ashamed that our society is that way.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)SunSeeker
(51,796 posts)I find it amazing how some Sanders supporters have such a tough time understanding why he does not have the support of most African Americans.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I believe them.
Cha
(298,014 posts)the South.. for Voting for Hillary.. and keeping this BS guy Far away from the Oval Office.
Anyone who drives the drivel into his fans heads like burnie does.. Gets Nothing.
#BSoestabishment #BSwantstobeAnointed #NotGonnaHappen.
Sorry, brave.. I can't wait for these bros to be a distant memory.. the damage they've done to themselves is incomparable.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)No matter where you go, here they come with that shit. Never fails. I wish he cared enough to tell them to leave me alone with that nonsense.
Cha
(298,014 posts)actually encourages it.
Latest BS is .. ".. the Dem Primary is not a Monarchy.. "
Hell right burnie.. that's why you're the hell not going to get coronated.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)His job to come out against this stuff.
Cha
(298,014 posts)his only lead was demonizing Hillary and the Dems.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Good Lord! What a vile racist piece of shit is that guy!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)We are just too dumb to learn. He swears!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,429 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Supporters say we got stockholm syndrome, and the candidate says the north is 'too smart' to not vote for him... I guess they see nothing wrong with saying this stuff. None of his fellow supporters will ever check him. Basically, we are just making this shit up.
bravenak
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sarae
(3,284 posts)You can tell "Bruce" has no clue how he comes off. No idea that he's basically saying "you people" should be grateful that he's generous enough to help you, even though he clearly thinks "you people" are beneath him...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)People like him have no shame. We see it all the time.
Number23
(24,544 posts)I'd be willing to bet everything in my pocket that most of the black folks that have the misfortune of even being in the same city as "Bruce" won't give him the time of day. Probably why he is so spectacularly pissed off.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Nobody in that thread was even talking to him until he showed up to tell us how stupid we are. I wish they would stop the outreach efforts. They are doing a terrible job, as we knew they would.
JustAnotherGen
(32,025 posts)An ignorant racist bigot. That's my opinion of him (Bruce Lacey) who is not a member of DU.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)full on racist rant now. What a JERK.
mcar
(42,465 posts)That's all. Then you'll see the beautiful Bernie light!
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)The fact that he also managed to be a racist about a dozen times is only icing on the cake.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)that he has to explain how Bernie is the Savior of their uteruses!
George II
(67,782 posts)At the time that law was passed by Congress (and voted FOR by Sanders) Hillary Clinton was First Lady and Bill Clinton was President. Neither of them VOTED for it and neither of them "PASSED" it. If anyone "passed" it or were directly instrumental in it being passed, it was Sanders.
But he's got an excuse why he voted for it, just like he's got excuses for voting for or against lots of other bad legislation.
Thankfully the primary/caucus voters are making him accountable for his dismal Congressional/Senatorial record.
Hekate
(91,003 posts)Don't forget June 14 is the last primary, and DU is slated to improve dramatically.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hekate
(91,003 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Corporate666
(587 posts)that the most insidiously evil thing you can do to someone is to patronize them.
It happens to the black community often, in sometimes very subtle ways.
Even things like overly praising someone or taking their side when they are wrong are evidential of that.
Sometimes that subtle, latent feeling boils over like it did in this asshole's post... that feeling is bubbling below the surface for many of the people who consider themselves champions of racial equality.
I find it utterly shocking that so many of these BS supporters are absolutely unwilling to accept that someone else can be smart, kind, educated, successful or any other positive characteristic but just see things differently than them or have different values.
The mere suggestion that someone could not like Bernie or not want him in office seems to be like telling them 2+2 = 5. They just can't comprehend how someone can think such a thing and they almost immediately get angry and go negative.
There are some truly great days ahead. June 7th will be one. The day Bernie endorses Hillary will be another. The convention will be another. And election day will be another.
So many succulent and precious moments to look forward to
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Maybe that's what some people wanted?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Legends303
(481 posts)but and now days its hard to tell the difference but the way he worded that makes me think he is trump troll.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)barrow-wight
(744 posts)So what is this idiot saying, that being on welfare and programs is somehow intrinsic to the Black experience or something? Yes, we live in a racist society where blacks have higher rates of both incarceration and "welfare and programs," and we should correct this. However, taking that to an assumption that these qualities are what define Black americans is just beyond disgusting and assumes that they somehow must be kept in a little bubble and do what they're told. It's insufferable to read.
I detest Condoleezza Rice's politics as the day is long, but she said something years ago that has stuck with me ever since and I wish I could find the exact quote or clip. She was talking about her journey and how she was taught by her parents to be "twice as good" as any white man if she wanted to succeed. It hit me first because so many Black republicans act as though systemic racism has somehow magically gone away. Ms. Rice didn't say that. She acknowledged the systemic racism. But then it hit me. She became twice as good. Yeah, I don't like her political beliefs or her participation in Iraq but I do celebrate her pride in kicking the system's ass and doing it in a way where she didn't have to be a template for anyone else's politics, even ones I disagree with. And that right there is the kicker. These Bernie supporters feel like people like you, Bravenak, are no better than Condoleezza Rice because, to them, you should fit some template of what a black person should be. If a black woman wants to be Condoleezza Rice, that's her choice! And if a black woman wants to be Bravenak, rock on! I can see why you get so angry and I couldn't be more lily white. It pisses me off every time I see you say these things and see how little they actually hear you.
I thank God that I did not have to face the challenge of systemic racism. The challenge of straight-up poverty was hard enough, but more than anything I wanted to proud of what I achieved. The way these people talk about support for Hillary misses a huge point. The black community had its highest income averages during Bill Clinton's presidency. That's pride in one's own achievements, a quality that can build hope and strength in any color. Who doesn't want the empowerment to feel great about themselves? Yes, we all want to know there's a safety net when we need it and I believe that Hillary supports that net in a more empowering way. I partly supported her husband's reform of welfare not because I wanted to see those nets go away, but because I wanted to see the conversation changed to one where people are empowered to feel better than a refugee floating in a life preserver in the middle of a stormy sea. Not being black, I can only guess at this, but if I had to zero in on why the Clintons speak to many in the black community, it is because they see them as more than just a cardboard cutout of poverty and programs.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)barrow-wight
(744 posts)It just ticks me off. I have friends of all stripes, including *gasp* Republicans. I'm in business. Of course I might trip over one here and there. I never look at anyone and say to myself, "oh, you're a black man (or woman, or Asian, or Italian white guy). You should be this religion, that political bent, or eat this kind of food." I have no idea what experiences bring a person to where they are independent of all the various global variables we have to deal with as people. If I were a deeply conservative Black Christian who was worth ten million dollars, I might be a religious right Republican looking for backward social policies and lower taxes and nobody could say I was voting against type. That's the piece these people don't get. It's not that your blackness is incidental anymore than my whiteness is, but these states exist within broader palettes than these people are painting with. The far left intellectual arguing for some cardboard cutout treatment of people of color is just as bad in my opinion as far right "intellectuals" trying to argue that society is a colorblind meritocracy.
I don't think Clinton is perfect. Far from it. But who the hell is? These people defying Sanders don't realize that the image they're grafting onto him exists only in a groupthink place in their head. Hillary is a realist. She gets this isn't about bogus promises. It's about getting to work and making things happen. I don't think they can handle us accepting that this candidate has flaws because they cannot understand that every candidate does, and sometimes those flaws are just those things that we see as personally disagreeing with our paradigm but we accept them because we like the bigger picture.