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otohara

(24,135 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:56 PM May 2016

GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT - Newsweek

Violence. Death threats. Vile, misogynistic names screamed at women. Rage. Hatred. Menacing, anonymous phone calls to homes and offices. Public officials whisked offstage by security agents frightened of the growing mob. None of this has any place in a political campaign. And the candidate who has been tolerating this obscene behavior among his supporters is showing himself to be unfit for office.

So, Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out of the race. Whatever respect sane liberals had for you is rapidly dwindling, and the damage being inflicted on your reputation may be unfixable. If you can’t even manage the vicious thugs who act in your name, you can’t be trusted to run a convenience store, much less the country.

When Bernie Sanders launched his presidential campaign, he seemed to be the kind of candidate who would inspire voters from the liberal blocs of the Democratic Party, push the party leftward and influence the future direction of politics—either as the nominee or as a force for change. But Sanders has increasingly signaled that he is in this race for Sanders, and day after day shows himself to be a whining crybaby with little interest in a broader movement. His vicious—and often ridiculous—attacks on the party whenever he doesn’t win a contest have inspired a level of ignorant fanaticism among a large swath of his supporters that is becoming more akin to what might be seen at an out-of-control rally for Donald Trump. Signs are emerging that the Sanders campaign is transmogrifying into the type of movement through which tyrants are born.

The ugly was on display at the recent state convention of the Nevada Democratic Party, where Hillary Clinton won more delegates than Sanders. Now, this should hardly have been a surprise to anyone except the Sandernistas, whose certainty in their righteousness has overwhelmed any commitment they may have ever had to democracy. Sanders lost the Nevada caucuses in February by more than 5%. A rational person who cared about the will of the people would presume that Clinton would emerge from the state with the most delegates. But Sanders supporters were outraged—outraged!—that the person with the largest number of votes ended up with the largest share of delegates.http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195

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GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT - Newsweek (Original Post) otohara May 2016 OP
East Los Angeles also comes to mind Iliyah May 2016 #1
This savalez May 2016 #2
Darn right! puffy socks May 2016 #3
"Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out" workinclasszero May 2016 #4
Interesting little fact from that article - "corrupt" Roberta Lange was a SANDERS SUPPORTER!!!! George II May 2016 #5
Felt The Bern otohara May 2016 #6
I did not know that mcar May 2016 #19
It makes no sense for him to continue liberal N proud May 2016 #7
My fear is that if he continues to the convention, there will Arkansas Granny May 2016 #8
there will be NO united anything maybelline jombi May 2016 #9
Are you a BS supporter? This is the HRC GROUP! Her Sister May 2016 #14
I'm a war vet ...Stop me from speaking ! maybelline jombi May 2016 #20
HAHA I am a VET too! PLEASE GO SPEAK IN THE BS GP! Her Sister May 2016 #21
I agree. hamsterjill May 2016 #10
I love the conclusion in the final paragraph. Staph May 2016 #11
Most of them barely remember George W. Bush. Lord Magus May 2016 #47
That whole article is a must read! sheshe2 May 2016 #12
Totally agree! Am enjoying every word! Her Sister May 2016 #15
Learned something new in the comments Rose Siding May 2016 #17
I thought you were Gynocrats . maybelline jombi May 2016 #22
bless your heart Rose Siding May 2016 #23
Cute. Oh, and welcome back. Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #25
Gaaa! sheshe2 May 2016 #33
My Pleasure otohara May 2016 #31
Holy shit. ismnotwasm May 2016 #13
Wow. A blistering indictment of Sanders and his followers! A must read! K&R! eom BlueCaliDem May 2016 #16
k&r Little Star May 2016 #18
K&R livetohike May 2016 #24
This entire article is full of gems. Thanks for posting. Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #26
Summed up quite accurately DrDan May 2016 #27
Wowser... what a shot to the gut! procon May 2016 #28
What I don't understand is... caquillo May 2016 #29
Coporate media! Stuckinthebush May 2016 #30
Gimme a pack of 305s and a Quick Pick GusBob May 2016 #32
K & R Koinos May 2016 #34
OMG this should be required reading! NastyRiffraff May 2016 #35
Cross posted on GD-P - I hope you don't mind CajunBlazer May 2016 #36
Give us a link, please. Cha May 2016 #37
Link CajunBlazer May 2016 #39
Just a little Cha May 2016 #40
LOL CajunBlazer May 2016 #43
GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT. I like those blunt terms .. maybe Sen sanders Cha May 2016 #38
Thanks, Cha. Kath1 May 2016 #44
Yes, he should have, Kath.. he should have acted like a leader that he's trying to get the Cha May 2016 #45
That was positively brutal. TwilightZone May 2016 #41
"showing himself to be unfit for office." SunSeeker May 2016 #42
Exactly.. no leadership skills. I knew that and now the world is seeing it. Cha May 2016 #46

savalez

(3,517 posts)
2. This
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016
But Sanders has increasingly signaled that he is in this race for Sanders, and day after day shows himself to be a whining crybaby with little interest in a broader movement.


 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
3. Darn right!
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

"Whatever respect sane liberals had for you is rapidly dwindling, and the damage being inflicted on your reputation may be unfixable. If you can’t even manage the vicious thugs who act in your name, you can’t be trusted to run a convenience store, much less the country. "

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. "Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out"
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

Bernie is riding the tiger now. He sold them all a pack of lies since day one.

If he tries to get off now the faithful will eat him alive!

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
7. It makes no sense for him to continue
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

He has less than a zero chance of winning the nomination. He has lost all credibility. Time to just go back to the lonely place in the corner where he came from.

At one time, I would have wished him well, and left it with no harm done, but there has been much harm done. Harm to Democratic brand, harm to his supporters and harm to the electorate system. He is far passed his expiration date. No respect remains.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
8. My fear is that if he continues to the convention, there will
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

be such division that it will hurt Hillary and other Democrats in the GE this fall. We will need a united front to beat Republicans and he needs to start leading his supporters in that direction.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
10. I agree.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

The fact that there is such division (caused by Sanders) at this point will be viewed by some GE voters are the inability to unite.

Bernie needs to face the music, and recover some of the grace and dignity that he exhibited at the beginning of this campaign, which grace and dignity have now been totally lost. Then he needs to endorse Hillary and stop this stupidity.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
11. I love the conclusion in the final paragraph.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016
Which brings us back to the original point: Senators Sanders, grow up or get out. Your supporters are now, in true petulant child fashion, proclaiming that they will vote for Trump rather than Clinton because blah blah blah, Wall Street, blah blah blah, corporate contributors, blah blah blah, establishment, blah blah blah. Probably none of them have much of a memory of the Vietnam War and the 1972 campaign. Then, the liberal wing of the Democratic Party won with the nomination of George McGovern and a large segment of the usual party supporters proclaimed they would vote for Richard Nixon instead. And look how well that turned out.


I'm afraid too many of the Sanders supporters don't remember the disastrous 1968 Chicago and the resulting coronation of Richard Nixon. I'm not sure that many of them remember Richard Nixon!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
17. Learned something new in the comments
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

It was in response to a pro-Clinton woman:

Another Gynosaur for Clinton


We're Gynosaurs but the misogyny is all in our minds
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
31. My Pleasure
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

We've been waiting a long time for their bullying tactics to come to light. Too bad violence has to be the deciding factor when it comes to the media finally noticing what's been going on for months.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,222 posts)
26. This entire article is full of gems. Thanks for posting.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

"Now, as the old saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag, and it seemed for a while that Sanders’s plan was essentially to launch a revolution inside the Democratic Party. That’s certainly not a controversial goal for someone to shoot for in any political party—conservatives have been transforming the GOP for more than 35 years, pushing it increasingly to the right. But it has become increasingly obvious that this “revolution” is a façade designed to hide what is little more than an arrogant thirst for individual power."

procon

(15,805 posts)
28. Wowser... what a shot to the gut!
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

I'm taking this one home:


Yeah, these are exactly the kind of people who Americans want to have as the next president’s base—vicious, sociopathic misogynists. And their threats of violence at the convention is just another sign that Sanders could go down as one of the most destructive forces in American history. Riots and flames at the convention—a repeat of the chaos of the 1968 Democratic Convention—would help open the White House doors for Donald Trump when compared to a nose-holding coronation by Republicans at their gathering in Cleveland.



Yeah, that really Berns... ow, make him stop... ouch...

caquillo

(521 posts)
29. What I don't understand is...
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

... why are celebs still continuing to support him? I'm not talking about the far left wingnuts, like Susan Sarandon and her ex Tim Robbins, but seemingly reasonable people? Recently, there was an article about Rosario Dawson, Josh Hutcherson, and Frances Fisher ('memba huh?) helping the Sanders campaign in CA registering people. I mean, they must know he has no chance. Aren't they turned off by the violent, misogynistic rhetoric and behavior of his followers and Sanders' own indifference to it? Don't they follow the news? Do they even care?

Stuckinthebush

(10,836 posts)
30. Coporate media!
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

"Conspiracy!"

"Owned by Wallstreet!"

"Hillary running scared!"

"Panic at the Disco!"

Did I miss any predictable Bernie Bot hyperbole to attack this article?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
35. OMG this should be required reading!
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

I particularly liked this;

The unseemly tirade of Sanders supporters was a marvel, the kind of behavior more likely to be seen among British soccer hooligans than people claiming to be interested in politics. A chair was thrown. People screamed “bitch!” at Senator Barbara Boxer, a staunch liberal from California. Even the Nevada state Democratic chairwoman, Roberta Lange, who had endorsed Sanders, needed a security detail just to go to the bathroom in order to protect her from the hypocritical “humanity lovers” who seem to hate everyone but themselves and their idol.

Afterward, the goons kept up their hostile hysterics. Protesters vandalized the offices of the state Democratic Party. Lange’s personal contact information, including her cellphone number, were posted online, and she has since received thousands of death threats, according to state party officials. One of the text messages to Lange said, “Praying to god someone shoots you in the FACE and blows your democracy-stealing head off!” (Only in the delusions of Sanders-land could democracy be stolen when the winner of the popular vote was winning.) Voicemail obtained by Jon Ralston, the dean of Nevada political reporters, contain such delightful statements as, “People like you should be hung in a public execution.... You are a sick, twisted piece of sh*t, and I hope you burn for this!” And, “You f**king stupid bitch! What the hell are you doing? You’re a f**king corrupt bitch!” And, “You’re a c*nt. F**k you!” And, “You probably just guaranteed fire is in Philadelphia.”


Is this what Sanders meant when he said his supporters are "not violent"? His failure to address what has become a pattern of violence and threats tells me all I need to know about Bernie Sanders.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
38. GET CONTROL, SENATOR SANDERS, OR GET OUT. I like those blunt terms .. maybe Sen sanders
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

can Understand that?!

And, forget his f******* stump speech for 5 minutes?!

Look @ all the publicity this is getting that Hillary won more delegates than BS.. Nice.

I wonder if "sanders fans were outraged".. because BS told them they were going to win Nevada? They believed him? He was wrong again, fans.

"the dress rehearsal" that went poorly. ..
Wait a sec.. omg. Robera Lange has endorsed sanders?!!! Is she sorry now?! “.. humanity lovers” who seem to hate everyone but themselves and their idol."

“Praying to god someone shoots you in the FACE and blows your democracy-stealing head off!” (Only in the delusions of Sanders-land could democracy be stolen when the winner of the popular vote was winning.)"

All in the name of burnie sanders.. hope he's proud.

Meanwhile, Sanders reacts with mealy-mouthed mumbles, saying he doesn’t support violence while doing literally nothing about it and claiming that—contrary to the statements of witnesses, reporters and video recordings—his violent supporters aren’t violent. Trump would be proud of the disingenuous delusions vomited up by the candidate.

Yeah, your "mealy mouthness" not going over well, burnie.

"Sanders himself has been willing to stoke the flames. He has said that if Clinton wins the nomination and wants his supporters, she has to court them herself by focusing on his issues while abandoning the “establishment.” After all, the loser always gets to dictate the agenda of the winner. (Usually, the candidate who doesn’t win the nomination vigorously endorses the party’s winner, but this is yet another example of Sanders being in it for himself.)"

Yeah sorry, burnie.. you Don't get to Dictate.

Why is Sanders continuing to bilk his delusional supporters of money, despite the impossibility of his winning the nomination, rather than directing it to candidates who support his ideals? Why do so many of his supporters scream “fraud!” when he loses a state and demand changes to the rules that they proclaim would have led him to victory?

http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195

Wow! Mahalo, otohara.. that was a perfect description by Kurt Eichenwald of what's been going on with Sen sanders and his fans.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
44. Thanks, Cha.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:07 PM
May 2016

A lot of sick things going on, that is for sure.

Bernie should have called off his dogs a long time ago but didn't. This has been going on for a long time.

I can't imagine myself or any Hillary supporter I know, in person or on line, behaving this way. Unbelievable.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
45. Yes, he should have, Kath.. he should have acted like a leader that he's trying to get the
Thu May 19, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

Super Dels to believe he is.. Fat Chance!

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