Hillary Clinton
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Like a lot of people, I was shocked by the statement Bernie Sanders put out about Nevada. No hint of apology for his supporters behavior, lots of accusations about a rigged process when the issue in Nevada was whether Clinton should get more delegates in a state where she won the vote. And the general implication that the nomination is somehow being stolen when the reality is that Clinton won because a large majority of voters chose to support her.
But maybe we shouldnt have been shocked. It has been obvious for quite a while that Sanders not just his supporters, not even just his surrogates, but the candidate himself has a problem both in facing reality and in admitting mistakes. The business with claiming that Clinton only won conservative states in the deep South told you that; and even before, there were strong indications that he would not accept defeat gracefully or even rationally.
Heres what I wrote more than a month ago:
Is Mr. Sanders positioning himself to join the Bernie or bust crowd, walking away if he cant pull off an extraordinary upset, and possibly helping put Donald Trump or Ted Cruz in the White House? If not, what does he think hes doing?
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/questions-of-character/?_r=0
book_worm
(15,951 posts)President Obama, VP Biden and Senator Warren will openly endorse HRC. We need to get past Bernie and stop pretending he has any chance of being the nominee. He and his supporters are hurting HRC and helping Trump with their behavior. On June 7 when HRC gets enough delegates to clinch the nomination--Bernie, if he really doesn't want to help Trump, should suspend his campaign just as HRC did in 2008, and endorse Hillary Clinton.
pandr32
(11,639 posts)There are rumblings of anarchy among Bernie supporters of derailing a Clinton presidency. Some are calling for a 3rd party run for Sanders, and others are plotting a write-in coup d'état. They are in under-the-radar contact with each other about the latter. I saw and heard some of this going on while serving as a Clinton delegate in an auditorium along with Bernie's delegates here in WA State.
Bernie has used tools of propaganda to subjugate quite a mass of people, and he intends to use them for purposes of his own power. No wonder he burned his last bridge down with his defiant statement regarding the Nevada near-riot. He is aware of the upcoming trouble and is counting on it.
SunSeeker
(51,796 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Love it, thanks SunSeeker.
Cha
(298,018 posts)is exactly what he's feeling.
Mahalo~
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Nevada non-apology.
It's about damn time is all I can say.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)His supporters hellbent on destroying America....a bloody and violent convention will hand the whitehouse to trump just as the debacle in 1968 gave Nixon the presidency...
Cha
(298,018 posts)one I asked earlier after I read his statement.
I don't care what he does.. I just can't wait until he goes away and does it.
I wasn't "shocked".. when we heard he walked away from the first time he was asked about it.. that's his MO.. he might have been better off leaving it @ that.. than the putting out the stump speech statement that came after.
#burniesorigged
Thank you for this, Su..
Yeah, so do I.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)or up very early.
Agree with you 100%, Cha!
Cha
(298,018 posts)any minute now. lol Not "boring".. that's the problem.
she~
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)I forget sufrommich, is he under the bus again?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)BootinUp
(47,211 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Sanders doesn't think about the consequences of his proposed policies or his actions. He's like a wind up doll who repeats his stump speech no matter what the question.
stopbush
(24,398 posts)it would be incumbent on the super delegates to step in and stop his candidacy were he to somehow end up with the majority of pledged delegates.
Fortunately, there's no way that will happen...and I hope the DNC has learned a painful lesson from allowing a DINO to run for the D nomination.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)What he's actually hinted at over many years. I don't think he really wants the nomination. I think he wants to destroy the Democratic Party.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)We have a winner folks!
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)He has never been held accountable by an organization. In the Senate, if he didn't like the way one side was going, he could always go the other way or be out there by himself.
Now there are party rules and he cannot adjust after being independent all his life. It is like the child who never played with anyone until they got to their first day of kindergarten.