Hillary Clinton
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JoPat Wellman, Guest Blogger | May 1, 2016
Like many of you I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly in campaigns during my lifetimeAl Gore running away from Bill Clinton and John Kerry running away from the swift boaters in two more recent campaigns. Hillary Clintons campaign in 2008 had the good, bad, and ugly, but in this years primary she is running a much better campaign with a much better candidate, Hillary 2.0. Obviously, she learned a lot from the Obama Campaigns of 2008 and 2012. However, Bernie Sanders is running the worst train wreck of a campaign I have ever witnessed.
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The train wreck started before it even left the station with Sanders NPR interview in November 2015. The interview is dismissive of the African-American voter as not just an integral part of the Democratic Party, but as the bulwark and foundation of the party.
But thats not important. You should not be basing your politics based on your color. What you should be basing your politics on is, how is your family doing? In the last election, in state after state, you had an abysmally low vote for the Democrats among white, working-class people. And I think the reason for that is that the Democrats have not made it clear that they are prepared to stand with the working-class people of this country, take on the big money interests. I think the key issue that we have to focus on, and I know people are uncomfortable about talking about it, is the role of the billionaire class in American society.
Oh boy! Could that have been more obtuse?
Statements such as those, along with his reliance on his long-ago civil rights activism, were offensive to many African-American voters. Then Sanders and his campaign hierarchy claims that Sanders would win the Northern black voters or the Democrats never win the South in general elections not only diminished the importance of southern voters, but were factually inaccurate as well. Social media flipped out after seeing a video of members of the nurses union training volunteers on how to talk to black voters. After Super Tuesday boxcars were uncoupling and veering off the tracks, but Sanders and surrogates such as Nina Turner and Jane Sanders kept denigrating the Southern states, which observers recognized as code for African-American voters.
Read more: http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/5/1/the-train-wreck-is-headed-to-california
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Has the countdown begun yet?
SunSeeker
(51,796 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)SunSeeker
(51,796 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)I sure hope it is sooner than naught.
Hugs back SunSeeker.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)He loves to talk at a lot of people and stir up that Hillary Hate!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,429 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)pandr32
(11,639 posts)Cha
(298,014 posts)to the "Southern voters".. and, more than a little bit stupid.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Southern voters....their votes don't matter. How sad is that.
Thanks Cha.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Of course there were disparaging remarks made about Southern states, bad political decisions.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Simply said "They just don't get it".
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)IamMab
(1,359 posts)I do not want to be on the side of anyone who acts and speaks so disrespectfully towards minorities. There will be no dialing back of the demographic changes that have taken place. America is already on course to become a majority-minority nation. Appeals to the "white working-class" fall on more and more deaf ears every year.
Which is a shame, because it should be progressive to fight for racial justice just as strongly as economic justice.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Almost all of them are at, or very near a college campus - a college campus where almost everybody is white. No wonder he doesn't understand why minorities aren't flocking to him. White, and mostly under the age of 25 - Bernie's core supporter. Then he and his wife both have the audacity to make light of the votes of minorities.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)And with the exception of the few token AA's who signed on to be a big fish in BS' small pond, much like his lavish spending, the outreach has been a bust.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Paternalistic republican on me when I stated bluntly that the democratic party would never steal the nomination from a woman who won a decisive majority of AA voters.
Identity Politics. Let us decide whats best for people.
The progressive movement is treading on some very dangerous ground with this racist shit.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)
No wonder there are Bernie people willing to switch to Trump.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Ok I got it!
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)And that is why they lost "white, working class" in the last elections. But Bernie is here to save the day from the disaster that has been Obama, the Dems and now his corporate handmaiden, Hillary.
Riiiiight.
It couldn't possibly, in any way conceivably, slightly, even a little bit, be attributed to pushback from those very same "white, working class" folks being reached out to? It couldn't be the ones who want to bring America back and thus will never, ever vote for Hillary but instead will either proudly stand with Bernie or stand by and allow Trump to win?
If you don't want minorities to feel excluded, you cannot say that their gains and representation "don't matter" in the same breath that you say "white working class" people's economic difficulties do.
This is not difficult.
sheshe2
(84,057 posts)I could name the person who sent it, yet I will not act so childless as the alerter.
Next comes the hide in a protected group that is continuously stalked.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)Alerts hosts that a post does not conform to our guide lines at HCG. It is a heads up to hosts. Yet it is almost always a disruptor that tries to stiffle us. Ignored unless it is malicious.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)Hide the truth. It doesn't change the fact that you already lost this one Berners.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)but it makes sense right? What did he have to worry about in lily-white Vermont?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Mingle with us, the people.
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George II
(67,782 posts)sheshe2
(84,057 posts)FYI....Love your sig!
murielm99
(30,782 posts)Wow. Just wow.
Only those who vote for Bernie are important? Is that it?
He focuses so much on money. Him personally, his campaign, his wife....The rest of us just don't "get it."
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)Without significant AA & Latino support, a Democrat would never win a national election EVER again. As much as BS & his BSers may not like it, "identity" does matter.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Young white angry males are not the Democratic base.