Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumSanders and his supporters claim that he is boosting turnout. (2/10/16)
Voter turnout challenges Sanders recipe for successThis isnt the entirety of Sanders pitch, but its a key pillar: the Vermont senator will boost turnout, which will propel him and Democratic candidates up and down the ballot to victory.
They argue Sanders has been boosting turnout yet there hasn't been any data proving their assertion. It seems they are just pulling it out of thin air. If his campaign would boost turnout it would show up in the primaries. And the numbers show that currently 2008 had a higher turnout than 2016 by over 6.2 million votes. Even if only Clinton and Obama are totaled for 2008 it is over 5 million more than in 2016.
What has happened is Hillary has received more votes in many of the 2016 contests then she did in 2008.
There are only 16 primaries and 4 caucuses left. 66% of the contests are over and time is running out. Where is the momentum? Why is Sanders' "resonating" message not boosting his campaign? Possibly because his message is not wide enough. They did not target a big enough slice of the pie.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,863 posts)It's going to be a big letdown when their dreams don't come true.
Shakiholic
(10 posts)Most up votes on reddit, most likes on Facebook, most Twitter followers, and 27,000 people in NY rally must mean there is a turnout boost! Just ignore your opponent being 200 delegates and 2.5 million votes ahead of yours. You're totally winning in Facebook likes all that matters. 😖
Sorry.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)And the BS campaign has paid over $16 million dollars for the privilege, which includes fundraising - and Revolution Messaging is boasting that they've helped BS break fundraising records.
(scroll down) https://revolutionmessaging.com/jobs/
Lots of hostility, anger, enraging, and ginning up "rage against the machine" for BS, but these don't translate into votes at the only polls that count (unlike the way Senator Obama was able to do in 2008 using the same service - and he broke fundraising records, too).
It's no secret that BS has broken records in online fundraising, FB likes, FB new accounts, online clickety-click polls, pro-BS tweets, and escalated online attacks of Clinton supporters, which even she admits she's never seen in '08. That's because, in '08, Senator Obama was using Revolution Messaging, and he ensured his online presence wasn't negative. BS can't help himself and is only negative.
Cha
(297,067 posts)JSup
(740 posts)...prove their assertions. Look at Hillary's record and look at what they say about her.
Treant
(1,968 posts)already started here in PA for Sanders. It's...gonna be a long ten days until the Primary and Clinton's win here.
As noted, a boost in turnout would, inevitably, result in a win for said candidate. And so far, Clinton is far, far ahead. Therefore...which candidate has higher turnout? Clinton. QED.
Let 'em dream, it can be fun. It's over already, but it should be obvious after Tuesday and downright blatant after April 26th.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)I actually thought that Back Bench Bernie was pulling most of his rhetoric out of a much more indelicate place. Maybe the Depends are getting in the way!
PEACE!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)I have the right at 70 myself.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)2008, kinda says Sanders has less votes than Obama. If the conclusion he is turning out more votes it is something they can nit prove. Do they know there are records maintained?
LiberalFighter
(50,837 posts)The only difference is how easy to make the comparison between the two periods and campaigns. In quite a few cases, Sanders did very poorly compared to 2008 numbers.
Kath1
(4,309 posts)Thankfully. I'm getting tired of him.
Stuckinthebush
(10,843 posts)The sophomoric behavior in GdP is an indication of the nature of his supporters. I can't wait to see this place clear out many of them. They certainly won't be able to tone down their silly anti Clinton and anti Dem rhetoric when Clinton is the nominee. Lots of tombstones will be seen I'm afraid.
IamMab
(1,359 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,837 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)"...When GOP officials, leaders, and candidates take steps to help the Sanders campaign, its pretty obvious why...."