Eight years ago I would've thought it unfathomable to vote Hillary.

[Drunken Irishman]

My dislike of her after the 2008 primaries was so hot, so real, that even her as Sec. of State didn't help. I did not like her. I could not envision myself EVER voting for her. My feelings of Bill were at their lowest levels, too, after spending most my life growing up idealizing him as president.

In 2008, I hated the Clintons.

I mean, REALLY hated the Clintons.

Yet yesterday, believe it or not, I cast my vote for Hillary. She lost my state, by a lot, but I stood in line for three hours to do that.

It's funny how time changes your feelings. I still am not 100% sold on Hillary, but she's the candidate I feel best represents a third Obama term.

That's what I'm voting for.

I hope she doesn't let me down!

[SheilaT]

1. And why exactly do you want a third Obama term?

Are you really psyched about bombing women and children? About backing off from Single Payer? About compromising Social Security?

[Drunken Irishman]

3. I think you're in the wrong place, Sheila. Promptly see yourself out.

Have a good night.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. Check where you're posting and please leave.

There are plenty of other DU groups where you can spout bullshit about Pres. Obama.

[SheilaT]

8. Hmmm. I thought I was making statements about Hillary.

Are Hillary and Obama the same people? Coulda fooled me.

[Cha]

12. Yeah, it seems it really is easy to "fool you". Most unfortunate.

[Baobab]

15. He's proably talking about their neoliberalism.

The ideology that ignores people, except as markets.

[Cha]

18. You have no idea what you're talking about, either.

[Cha]

42. This is your post in the BOG^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you cannot get Blocked

from a Group unless you post in it. I hope that clears it up for you.

[Cha]

14. No, you're not getting unblocked from the BOG.. I'm not wasting my time replying to your

PM.

[Cha]

11. No.. no one has "confirmed" anything for you. You're just acting like you know something

when you are being totally clueless. Sad really.

[sweetloukillbot]

5. You're in the BOG right now, FYI...

[Cha]

10. Oh Please... BS isn't even going to be the Nominee.. all he does is talk.. President Obama

and Hillary actually are the Progressives here.

And, you're such just repeating Hogwash about them.. it has no basis in reality.

[creon]

49. good bye Sheila

have a nice day

[sweetloukillbot]

2. I figure if Obama could look past the primary and work with her, I could vote for her

[Baobab]

16. They will join together to pass TPP, TTIP and TISA...

To begin the 1000 year Corporation

[Cha]

23. Oh you poor misinformed. Obama has been an excellent President and Hillary will

build on his legacy.

BS's big mistake was trying to take down the President. Obama's too successful and popular for BS.

[Firebrand Gary]

7. She's going to do us proud.

It's why the right wing is freaking out about her.

[JohnnyRingo]

9. K&R

I too felt she's the best choice this term and cast a vote for her last week. She has realistic goals and steely resolve. I believe she possesses the unique quality to be firm or diplomatic as the situation requires. Unlike her counterpart for the nomination she doesn't lose her temper and become flustered under pressure.

[Cha]

13. Mahalo for voting for her, DI!

I vote in Hawaii on Saturday the 26th.. so excited.

I voted for Obama in New York in 2008 and Hillary in Hawaii in 2016.. yeah, I learned to love her pretty fast.. even at the convention.

But, the BSrs' still drag my quotes up from 2008 to try and embarrass me like it will make me like BS anymore. Ha! Not a chance in hell.

I've studied on Hillary's real accomplishments .. if one gets passed all the hate and propaganda about her.. she's pretty amazing!

[Bangbangdem]

17. Go, Bernie, go!

I disagree with you guys. Major contributions to the Clinton foundation for sweetheart weapons deals? I suppose if that's the world you want to live in.... just hope the rest of us don't have to.

[Cha]

19. All BS does it talk talk talk and promise free stuff.. he really doesn't know much else.

[Cha]

33. These are protected Groups from intruders and disruptors.. set up by the Admins. I wouldn't go

into the BS group and disrupt.. I would get Blocked in a New York second. Just like you are.

Those are the rules. Many members follow the rules but there are those who think they're above it all. Then they find out they're not really.

[fun n serious]

20. I am not ready to see Obama leave.

I would love a 3rd Obama turn.

[byronius]

25. We are all going to miss him terribly no matter what.

Whether some of us know it or not. We will not see his like again for a long time, I think.

Grace under Pressure. A steady hand. Soul. Faith. Honesty.

[riversedge]

27. Indeed--a steady hand was and is so appeciated.

[brer cat]

38. I concur, byronius.

You have described him very well!

[Festivito]

21. Voting for a hated Dem, I'd be curious and scared to know the feelings against Repubs. eom

[Cha]

22. How disingenuos.. Hillary is only hated by the rwinger and BS and his followers. She's winning..

or haven't you noticed? LOL

[KitSileya]

26. President Obama and Hillary Clinton now have even more in common.

Both are being hounded by a groups of unhinged, vitriolic, hating extremists who are motivated by bigotry. For PBO, it was the tea partier racists on the right, and for HRC it's the new teapartiers, the gamergater sexists on the left. Both groups hate so incandescently it's scary, and both demonize their object of hatred. To them, PBO is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist that will take all their guns, and HRC is a murdering liar that will take all their money to give to banks.

It's unfathomable to me that on this website, neither group are summarily banned if they couch their words softly enough (well, in the case of HRC, they don't need to use euphemism, as theyve taken over the jury system, and have no problems saying this vitriol straight out.)

[Cha]

28. Hillary and President O are both Winners who are hated by the rwingers.. and

those on the left. We've had to put up with their disingenuous bullshite on him for over 7 years. That's why we have the BOG in the first place.. so they can't come in and throw their cheap ignorant pot shots.

That's why I've had to block all of those on this thread..

A few have gotten banned though for pushing trump or not voting for Hillary in the GE. I suspect more will be banned when we do get to the GE.

[KitSileya]

29. I can't wait to get to the GE. We'll see the Prez campaign again then.

That'll be awesome. It'll give him a chance to be less bipartisan, when he stumps for Hillary. He does that so well.

[Cha]

34. I've been thinking about that day when they're out on the campaign trail since the beginning!

I said so, too.. that the Dem Nominee is going to want to have President Obama campaigning for them and with them..

Hillary has spoken highly of Obama.. BS paid that no heed and he continued to run against both of them, disingenuously.. worst campaign strategy ever.

[KitSileya]

36. Yeah, it is the worst campaign strategy. PBO appeals to the backbone of the Dem party

The minority voters. I guess BS isn't interested in getting the minority votes. Other parts of his campaign bears out that claim. However, I wouldn't want to belong to a Dem party where minority voters aren't the biggest factor in making policy. I don't want a Dem party that doesn't care about the issues of women, immigrants, Black people, LGBT people et al. If the only thing I care about is my economic future, I might as well vote Republican. As a white woman nearing menopause, with a well-paying job and assured health care, I am increasingly less at risk for repuke policies personally, and even then war with Iran, the tanking of the economy because of awful economic policies and the increased police state would concern me too.

[Cha]

37. You've totally hit the nail on the head with that 2nd sentence, Kit!

"PBO appeals to the backbone of the Dem party The minority voters."

And, to all the millions of us who are all about civil rights and equality for all.. who happen to think of more than just "wall street".

BS had a point about "wall street".. but then he went into over kill when he started demonizing Hillary with it.

And, it's not even working.. hear that, berni? Your negative dumps aren't working.. you can tell by how much money your campaign is spending on ads in states like Arizona and Ohio and you lost.

[sheshe2]

43. So sorry I missed all this Cha.

Good job sweetie.

BOG

[Cha]

45. Quite alright, she..

I just happened to see DIrish's thread when was here checking out yours.. quite the riveting OP!

[brer cat]

39. You certainly nailed it KitSileya.

"...both demonize their object of hatred." That is the part I can't get my head around, especially coming from the left.

[KitSileya]

40. It's the hatred that separates us. We don't support Sanders,

and we don't like many of his tactics, but none of us would deny him his humanity. PBO and HRC are constantly monsterized and otherized and made non-human by their haters. Apparently there's no monopoly on that on the right. The far left has shown itself as racist and sexist as many on the Republican side. As people working for intersectional justice knows, it's not just the right wingers, many ostensibly on our side are prejudiced too.

[brer cat]

41. Yep. nt

[7962]

46. Well, not exactly.

Sure, she's winning, but other than Trump, she is the most disliked candidate nationally. 60+% negatives cant be all GOP & Bernie supporters.
There arent that many!

[Cha]

47. Yet she's winning.. so more people don't hate her. It's that Math again.

[still_one]

24. Though I didn't feel the dislike you expressed, I was not very pleased with how Clinton ran

her campaign in 2008.

I supported President Obama in 2008 and 2012 in both the primaries and general election also.

I think what you expressed encapsulates it best for me. If someone is mostly supportive of the administrations last 8 years, I think Hillary is the obvious choice.

It is the reason I voted for President Obama in 2008 and 2012, and will also be voting for Hillary in 2016. I think both President Obama and Hillary have grown tremendously since 2008, and it is that experience that will best serve the country.

[Cha]

31. They have grown.. I'm so proud of both of them. Obama has been an excellent President

and Hillary was a brilliant SOS.

I think they've both learned so much since the beginning when they started on this journey of winning and losing in 2008.

And, now here we all are.. ready to get Hillary elected President in 2016.. I know President Obama wants her to be #45, too.. and that says a lot.

[still_one]

35. We are on the same page Cha, thanks

[sheshe2]

44. Yes, they have grown...

Mutual love and respect, Cha.

[Thinkingabout]

32. I don't have a complaint against Obama, may not totally agree on every

Issue but I have enjoyed his handling of tough situations. He had confidence in Hillary and they worked well together, I would like to continue good decisions and Hillary will continue good strong leadership. He has not endorsed Hillary in a statement but after this weeks terror attack the only presidential statement by the candidates was from Hillary.

[steve2470]

48. Skinner needs to rename this site BashDemocratsUnderground, sigh.....

So many come into this group to bash Secretary Clinton and President Obama. One day I'm leaving this place. So many POLITICALLY CLUELESS PEOPLE.

[Mary Mac]

50. no stay we need you here.

I think they're moving to jack rabbit and I wish all well. Yes I am Obama Hillary now.

[ViseGrip]

51. It was her work and corruption at the State dept. that lost me forever.

I'll never vote for her. She let me down at State, promoting fracking around the world, etc. When she left, she made paid speeches KNOWING she was going to run, and she had plenty of money. Now she doesn't want to share. She is not accountable.

And let's not forget all the weapons for cash via the 'Foundation', totally unacceptable. Bill took 500K for an arms sale, and forgot he was not to do that while she was at 'State'. He said ooops! I forgot! Utter bullshit.

If you have to HOPE someone doesn't let you down, then you are not sure of them. That is the exact trust issue she has overwhelmingly across the board. She doesn't even stand up and speak for everyone's vote to count.

Hardly presidential material, anymore. She's been totally corrupted!

[The_Casual_Observer]

52. Oh I remember how you hated Hillary. Obama has turned out to be a great President

no argument there.

[KelleyD]

53. Me too...I was an Obama supporter. She was gracious in her exit and her and Bill were great!

When she was chosen to be SOS she did a great job for our Nation. I am backing Hillary because she has fought for our Nation and will continue. Please don't even bring up the IWR because I believe her and Kerry and Biden and all other Dems that believe the Reports. Colen Powell was an upstanding witness...unfortunately he was dubbed too. I think we will be well represented by this clear thinking Democrate