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WHAT THE HELL.
T_i_B
(14,734 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:29 AM - Edit history (1)
And that's what most of my Twitterfeed is right now.
As cities go, Birmingham is very normal. In a way I always find it a bit like a bigger version of my home town of Sheffield. Brummies tend to have a lot of the same hopes, fears and insecurities as us Sheffielders.
The only noticeable thing about Birmingham's minorities that I've found is an above average number of Rasta's about the place. But that's not Islam. Even Faux News fuckwits should be able to work that out.
shenmue
(38,501 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)Actually I was just talking to my neighbour yesterday, who (unlike atheist me) is a strong Christian, and takes the train every Sunday to attend her preferred Christian church, which is, guess where, in EVIL BIRMINGHAM.
And 'Muslim police' in London - WTF - has Emerson ever actually been to either London or Birmingham???
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)has a growing LGBT presence...counters his claim.
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)and what this Emerson character is saying is just outrageously wrong at all levels.
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)Perhaps, like the people of Liverpool, the people of Birmingham and London may begin to cotton on, now ...
The Skin
T_i_B
(14,734 posts)so now they've got themselves in trouble over lying about Paris.
http://www.kspr.com/life/money/paris-mayor-we-intend-to-sue-fox-news/21052342_30814426
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)Jindal and non-natural born American calling UK cities having no-go areas? UK should impose a go no visa on him travelling to the UK
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)The man has issues and they ain't magazines.
The Skin
T_i_B
(14,734 posts).....that GOP politicians are now making the exact same false arguments that the BNP make.
I very much doubt that Jindal and his Henry Jackson Society chums will be visiting the poorer parts of London and Birmingham to find out the truth of the matter.
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)E.g. Pamela Geller gives active support both to the Tea Party and the EDL.
And see (or don't, if you have a weak stomach) some of the writings of Mark Steyn, Canadian writer, darling of many American right-wingers, and truly fascist in much of his basic philosophy, with plenty of opinions about how secularism and the welfare state are softening Europe and weakening people's 'survival instinct' and making us too weak for our primary roles of outbreeding and fighting the Muslims.
Also see some of the writings on the site of the superficially respectable Gatestone Institute - and bear in mind that some prominent Brits like Caroline Cox and Daniel Finkelstein are on its board.
When British and Europaean anti-immigrant bigotry gets into bed with American Islamophobia, which has been happening to an increasing degree in the last decade or so, it produces some very ugly spawn.
Indeed, realizing what Europe is up against from this point of view is one of the main things that converted me in 2004 from being a Eurosceptic (the Bush-Blair collaboration was the other). Whatever the problems with EU bureaucracy, we need to unite against the pressures to turn it into a tough, anti-welfare, anti-immigrant arena for fighting against the Eeeevil Muslim Enemy.
Europe was affected by fascism once already, and that was once too often.
Of course, we don't have to look to the American Right, or to acknowledged extremists such as the BNP, to find some of these attitudes: look at Melanie Phillips and her 'Eurabia' propaganda.
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)But a lot of this is doubtless trying to show the white teabagger Republicans that he is 'more racist than thou'.
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)is a Rhodes Scholar.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,149 posts)Does joining the Republicans take 20 points off your IQ score?
Example:
Senate vote on whether humans contribute significantly to global warming - 43 Democrats, 2 Independents and 5 Republicans say yes; 49 Republicans say no.
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)T_i_B
(14,734 posts)...to visit the Henry Jackson Society. And I very much doubt they will have been giving him a guided tour of Bermondsey or Brixton.
LeftishBrit
(41,190 posts)Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)But which Tory govt, coalition or not, will do that to any Republican?
T_i_B
(14,734 posts)Get him travelling, but this time on his own, without the entourage or the chaperones that people in his position tend to get. He might be surprised by what actually happens in the real world.
non sociopath skin
(4,972 posts)The Skin