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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:56 AM Feb 2020

Breaking: Chancellor has quit

This is huge. Apparently he was told he could stay but he had to sack all his advisers. (that has to be cummings) Javid told Boris to sling his hook... bloody hell.

Control freaks being control freaks. Cummings is too big for his far right boots and I am for one delighted that Javid was not going to put up with that level of control from a non elected arsehole - putting his spies in number 11 - just guessing of course but it makes sense. Wonder how Boris is going to take this???? Hehe

Shit is getting real.

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Breaking: Chancellor has quit (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2020 OP
Link to The Guardian live thread nitpicker Feb 2020 #1
Thanks, this is amazing. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #2
Thanks for posting those excerpts! BlueMTexpat Feb 2020 #16
Still don't understand UK's politics . . . Iliyah Feb 2020 #3
Tehre is a budget next month so it is not great Soph0571 Feb 2020 #5
So dishonest Mike 03 Feb 2020 #4
I don't know Soph0571 Feb 2020 #6
OMG I didn't understand that. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #7
Boris is Trump lite with a complete control freak running number 10 Soph0571 Feb 2020 #9
Yep, you are 100% right: Mike 03 Feb 2020 #14
The difference is Cameron didn't have an equivalent of Dominic Cummings muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #18
Trump's cabinet would all say sir yes sir. dawg day Feb 2020 #22
New: Rishi Sunak appointed chancellor Mike 03 Feb 2020 #8
As I said above - number 10 now has there yes man Soph0571 Feb 2020 #10
Downing Street now Tweeting about the reshuffle (Guardian Live Updates) Mike 03 Feb 2020 #11
Gove is a snake oil sales man Soph0571 Feb 2020 #13
"May not be the end of the power-grab" Mike 03 Feb 2020 #12
It's amazing that UK voters elected Johnson. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #15
"The door is still open..." Mike 03 Feb 2020 #17
Other than maybe getting rid of Johnson down the road, what will it affect? marble falls Feb 2020 #19
The upcoming budget and spending plans for the next year Soph0571 Feb 2020 #20
Take it from me: The British do not need a leader running away with more power. marble falls Feb 2020 #21
One of the few with a brain, however much I might disagree with him LeftishBrit Feb 2020 #23

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. Thanks, this is amazing.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:13 AM
Feb 2020

A couple of excerpts:

Sajid Javid, the chancellor, reportedly resigned because the PM insisted that he sack his advisers, and replace them with officials chosen by Number 10.

Such a move would amount to a repeat of what happened last year, when one of Javid’s advisers was sacked without his approval by Dominic Cummings, Boris Johnson’s chief adviser.


Sajid Javid now joins the long list of people who have been let down by Boris Johnson. During the general election, in a Q&A after a speech to the CBI, Johnson committed to keeping Javid as his chancellor after the election. Javid was doing an excellent job, he said. No other cabinet minister received a job security guarantee of this kind during the campaign.


'No self-respecting chancellor would accept those terms', says source close to Javid
A source close to Sajid Javid has confirmed that he has resigned. The source told the Press Association.

[Javid] has turned down the job of chancellor of the exchequer.

The prime minister said he had to fire all his special advisers and replace them with Number 10 special advisers to make it one team.

The chancellor said no self-respecting minister would accept those terms.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Still don't understand UK's politics . . .
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:14 AM
Feb 2020

But this is a bad thing, I assume . .

Also, how is the economy there? Also, BoJo, like shithole here is now deporting citizens who are from other cultures/races?

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
5. Tehre is a budget next month so it is not great
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:18 AM
Feb 2020

He was seen as a steady state chancellor ... it is very shocking. No one was expecting it.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. So dishonest
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:14 AM
Feb 2020

When you tell a professional, "You can stay but all your attendants and assistants have to go" what can you in good conscience call it but being fired?

Imagine saying that to a Judge, or a chief surgeon.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
6. I don't know
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:19 AM
Feb 2020

Seemingly they expected him to accept the changes and carry on. The PM did not expect the resignation, the expected him to be a yes man. They were wrong.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. OMG I didn't understand that.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:20 AM
Feb 2020

They expected him to accept those terms.

Thank you for clarifying.

I'm just so shocked.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
9. Boris is Trump lite with a complete control freak running number 10
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:30 AM
Feb 2020

They just want yes men... and I mean men. Good on the Chancellor for walking. We know have a very junior minister taking the job. He will be the perfect yes man

muriel_volestrangler

(101,158 posts)
18. The difference is Cameron didn't have an equivalent of Dominic Cummings
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 09:20 AM
Feb 2020

who seems to be trying to control all the special advisers in the government, and a lot of the permanent civil service too. Cameron seemed to have a good personal relationship with Osborne, and gave him real control of the Treasury, which would have included appointing his own advisers.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. New: Rishi Sunak appointed chancellor
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:29 AM
Feb 2020

Rishi Sunak appointed chancellor

No 10 has confirmed Rishi Sunak’s appointment as chancellor.

Sunak’s rise up the ranks has been extraordinary. He has been chief secretary to the Treasury since last summer, but technically he was not even a member of the cabinet; he was just a minister with the right to attend. Being chancellor is his first full cabinet job.


Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
10. As I said above - number 10 now has there yes man
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:31 AM
Feb 2020

He is far to inexperienced to stand up to the centralised power in Number 10.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
11. Downing Street now Tweeting about the reshuffle (Guardian Live Updates)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:34 AM
Feb 2020
Downing Street has now started tweeting about the reshuffle, starting with confirmation that Dominic Raab, Michael Gove and Priti Patel are all staying in post.

It is not clear yet whether Gove will get any additional responsibilities as part of Cabinet Office portfolio.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
13. Gove is a snake oil sales man
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:43 AM
Feb 2020

Brexit negotiations would be my guess
Patel is so far right she is practically falling off the side of the planet. That suits them pandering to to the Brexit little englander.

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
15. It's amazing that UK voters elected Johnson.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020

After seeing the utter chaos and dishonesty we have had from Trump, a man despised in the UK, their citizens voted for Boris, Trump’s political twin. Both are dishonest politicians who will always put their own power above the needs of their respective countries and will literally do anything, legal or not, to keep that power.

Putin must be thrilled. He has Trump in place to destabilize and destroy our democratic government and Johnson/Brexit wrecking the near future of the UK. I wonder which major country he will attack next.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
20. The upcoming budget and spending plans for the next year
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 10:25 AM
Feb 2020

But more than that it is the tightening of the power grip of the PMs office. Traditionally the Chancellor has been rather independent from policy makers - this is about to change. It is worrying.

LeftishBrit

(41,192 posts)
23. One of the few with a brain, however much I might disagree with him
Sat Feb 15, 2020, 08:04 AM
Feb 2020

This is basically constructive dismissal. By the great Emperor Dominic 1. As many have been saying, it's ironic that so many people worry about being ruled by 'unelected bureaucrats' in Brussels, while accepting the rule of an unelected bureacrat at home.

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