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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:19 AM Jul 2019

Tories round on Boris Johnson amid furious backlash after ambassador's resignation over leaked Trump

Theresa May has described the resignation of the US ambassador as "a matter of great regret" amid a furious backlash over Boris Johnson's refusal to support him.

Sir Kim Darroch said his job had become "impossible" after the leak of diplomatic memos highly critical of Donald Trump's administration.

His decision is understood to have been made after Mr Johnson repeatedly refused to support him during a televised Tory leadership debate on Wednesday.

Foreign office minister Sir Alan Duncan has absolutely torn into Boris Johnson over the resignation of Sir Kim Darroch.

Asked if Johnson should have defended the ambassador, Sir Alan said: "Yes he should have done so. The current foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt gave him full support, so did the PM, so did the cabinet.

"A former foreign sec who thinks he that is equipped to be PM has basically thrown him under the bus.

"MPs on both sides of the house are absolutely livid and I think the conduct of BJ has discredited him enormously in the eyes of many people in this country."


[link:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-pmqs-boris-johnson-no-deal-tory-leadership-hunt-latest-a8998171.html|

I saw Sir Alan on politicis live doing this interview - I thought his head might explode in anger. In last nights debate it was obvious that Boris was handing power over international diplomacy to that mad fucker in the White House.
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Tories round on Boris Johnson amid furious backlash after ambassador's resignation over leaked Trump (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2019 OP
God I hope this brings Boris Johnson down MaryMagdaline Jul 2019 #1
Unfortunately as most of the ballots have already been cast for the leadership Soph0571 Jul 2019 #2
Do you think that Boris will be elected PM? CottonBear Jul 2019 #8
He will be Prime Minister without an election - that is the way it works here Soph0571 Jul 2019 #9
Thanks for the information. CottonBear Jul 2019 #10
Who hacked the ambassador's communications? C_U_L8R Jul 2019 #3
I am going with hard Brexiteers aided by Russia Soph0571 Jul 2019 #4
Looks more like a leak T_i_B Jul 2019 #5
Again, the trail of these leaks leads to/through Isabel Oakeshott, Denzil_DC Jul 2019 #6
Not sure whether Oakeshott's lawsuit will be going ahead now ... Denzil_DC Jul 2019 #7

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
2. Unfortunately as most of the ballots have already been cast for the leadership
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:25 AM
Jul 2019

This is unlikely to happen

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
8. Do you think that Boris will be elected PM?
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:39 AM
Jul 2019

I’m in the US. I’m trying to follow and understand the entire Brexit situation, while dealing with our ongoing disaster here in the US.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
9. He will be Prime Minister without an election - that is the way it works here
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:50 AM
Jul 2019

He will be voted leader of the Tory party and as the tory party is the party in power he will automatically become PM without having to go to the polls.

He may call an early election but I don't think he will.

What I think will happen is as follows:

Boris will try and force through a no deal Brexit as PM
Parliament will tell him to take a hike and bring forward a vote of no confidence in his government
The Queens will dissolve Parliament and call an election
The Conservatives and the Brexit Party will form an alliance to split the vote in Labour heartlands that voted Brexit but would never vote for the Conservative Party
There will be a coalition Conservative / Brexit Party government with the majority in Parliament and they will insist based on this that the country has voted for a no deal Brexit
The government under Boris will last about 18 months until the full effects on the economy of a no deal Brexit become clear
At that point who the hell knows what will happen...

FUN TIMES


CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
10. Thanks for the information.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 12:04 PM
Jul 2019

I phrased my question incorrectly. I do know that his party will vote for a leader who will become the PM.

So sorry you are suffering through this never ending political disaster.
We are horrified at both what is happening here and in the UK.

Hopefully, the 2020 elections here will be in the Democrats favor, so that we can begin to repair our relationship with the UK and with our European allies.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
3. Who hacked the ambassador's communications?
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:28 AM
Jul 2019

I would think this would be major security issue. Whoever gets caught will be in deep shit (unless they're the one seizing power). Very curious.

T_i_B

(14,738 posts)
5. Looks more like a leak
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 08:48 AM
Jul 2019

....from certain anti EU / pro Trump quarters.

It's very notable that Brexshitters, in their endless quest for ideological purity have started to turn on the Civil Service for not being wildly enthusiastic about the project to leave the EU.

Denzil_DC

(7,241 posts)
6. Again, the trail of these leaks leads to/through Isabel Oakeshott,
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jul 2019

Farage/Banks propagandist extraordinaire.

Some may remember her, as well as from her frequent appearances on the BBC, as being the journo embroiled in the Vicky Pryce/Chris Huhne affair that saw both of them locked up, the allegations about ex-PM Cameron cavorting with a pig's head, and her belated revelation that she long had evidence of Arron Banks's close involvement with the Russian government. She only came clean about it to play the story down when it emerged through other outlets in October last year:


How a Journalist Kept Russia’s Secret Links to Brexit Under Wraps

LONDON—The extent of Russia’s interference in the 2016 votes for Trump and Brexit has been investigated by intelligence agencies, congressional and parliamentary inquiries, the FBI and special counsel Robert Mueller’s office for more than a year.

For much of that time, a reporter in England has been in possession of extraordinary details about Russia’s cultivation and handling of Brexit’s biggest bankroller. Arron Banks was secretly in regular contact with Russian officials from 2015 to 2017, according to a cache of emails apparently not seen in those Transatlantic investigations until they were published in Britain on Sunday.

Banks, who ran the Leave.EU campaign group, was one of the first foreign political figures to visit Donald Trump—accompanying Nigel Farage to Trump Tower—soon after the shock presidential election of 2016. Farage is reportedly a “person of interest” in the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation.

Isabel Oakeshott, a former Sunday Times journalist who ghost-wrote Banks’ book, The Bad Boys of Brexit, was granted access to his emails in the summer of 2016 in order to help draft the diaries. The book mentions one meeting at the Russian embassy which has been the focus of great interest ever since, especially amid questions about where Banks’ sourced the multi-million pound funding of Brexit. He has denied the money came from Russia.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-a-journalist-kept-russias-secret-links-to-brexit-under-wraps


Oakeshott is currently threatening to sue the Guardian's political sketch writer John Crace for an article he wrote rather clumsily implying that her links to Farage and Banks are even closer that hitherto imagined:


Denzil_DC

(7,241 posts)
7. Not sure whether Oakeshott's lawsuit will be going ahead now ...
Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:41 PM
Jul 2019
Brexit Party chief's lover behind story that forced US ambassador Darroch to quit

The journalist who sparked the resignation of Britain’s US ambassador is in a relationship with Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party chairman.

Isabel Oakeshott – who revealed Sir Kim Darroch’s leaked Donald Trump emails – has been with MEP Richard Tice since last year.

Mr Tice, 54, wants Sir Kim replaced by a “pro-Brexit businessman” – a description which fits both himself and Mr Farage.

Ms Oakeshott, 45, yesterday refused to comment on her relationship with the politician, who has left his wife Emma, saying: “It’s a private matter.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-party-richard-tice-darroch-18206347


Tice wasn't mentioned specifically by Crace, and the Guardian quickly toned down the already tame not-quite innuendo in Crace's sketch under pressure from Oakeshott, changing "leave it conveniently tucked under her pillow" (which might make one think of the Tooth Fairy sooner than an allegation of a Brexiter threesome if one didn't have a guilty conscience) to "leave it conveniently to one side for her".

Meanwhile ... UK police identify suspect behind leaked envoy memos: Sunday Times
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